Do You Think RTH Forum Topics Have Run Amok

Yes. I feel that it has. Certain posters from India have hijacked this forum and don't seem to be able to see it for what it is. I'm all for free speech, but the nonsense that I've been reading on this forum lately has diluted the quality content that was here before their arrival.

I'm not sure for their reasons why, but they don't seem to be getting the message, as I've called them on their BS more than once. They seem to be kids. If this continues, I might be in a position to ask for some santions against them.

You know I take some time off to visit with friends and play the last few weeks and things start to go to shit .....  

This site is an open forum to speak ones mind, no matter what it is.  I'll have to think about a few things here because I do agree the last couple of weeks we seemed to have gotten hit with a lot of "questionable" threads.

Me needs to sleep on it

Sweet dreams, my friend. I know this is not one of your favorite topics.

The thought that mulled through my head was - is it just there is no understanding of the american perspective in the topics that already exsisted? is it possible that the differences in lifestyles from different regions can be that extreme that it is hard to identify with ideology that is so well....american? Depending on ones perspective independent thought could mean many different things. 

 I can't help but think all in all we are the sum total of all of our experiences, if someone has lived a life where that experience and freedom of expression is grossly censored, (to the point you could be killed simply for stating what you really think) wouldn't the concept of independent thought come acrossed grossly strange? maybe inappropriate even?

I doubt it. There are dissident groups everywhere, even in India. These guys are just shallow, very shallow.

It's the point of x culture is better than y culture over and over again.  What is the point?  It seems to me that not much is brought to back anything up on it, except to cause diversion in a world that currently has a lot of deeper issues going on.  Fluff is ok.  Fluff eases tension.  But when things start dragging on that smacks of elitism, I don't play that game and simply call bs.  I have a lot of philosophical differences with many on here, AND many similarities, but I don't just jump on the bandwagon with elitist crap and expect to create a deep conversation.  That just won't happen--and actually, I have yet to see it form from one of those threads. 

I believe it comes down to some people attempting to break the ice and may be short with their initial posts, we're all guilty of that.  But what becomes irritating is when one blasts in, creates a number of one liners and then neither follows up no as in  a lot of case's you won't hear from them for weeks at a time.  This sets off my "spam" radar but the posts really aren't pimping any spam but it does walk the fine line of being "Trolls". 

So what I'm going to do is keep a sharp eye, maybe create a spot to move the threads to if it gets really bad.  I do see this on other forums also, a lot of this is with people from other countries that are attempting to bring attention to some bullshit that is happening in their area of the world.  No I'm not going to censor these people, for that would violate the ToS I have set for this site.  I want to have a place to where all have a voice, no matter what it is.  The solution may be a restructure of the forum layout or just adding another area for them, dunno ... I've got to give some serious thought to it.

You an creat a "Minutia" section for the to blast away in!

That is the problem. with you Pagan. I fully endorse the view right from mocking bird to yours. But the problem, according to me is you have let open freely the floodgate and now after gushed through a nonsense one liner, to linear threads (I am sorry I may not visited and posted into all of forum threads), why you want to endorse something stupid has happened.

Are you a learner of sort who want to change his attitude only after facing flaks. Why the hell you afraid and want to endorse that Indians are the reason behind to something to say stupid hijacked this forum. If it is for you to allow only American thoughts and have American posts, then should have clearly stated that this forum is only meant of Americans.

Sincerely, I would like to advice that  "you don't get the wholesome grain without chaff while harvesting. Chaff has to be removed independently". That's all, I have to say.

You missed the point, here's my take on the posts that have come flooding in as of late as I posted above -

But what becomes irritating is when one blasts in, creates a number of one liners and then neither follows up no as in a lot of case's you won't hear from them for weeks at a time.

I take no issue with what country someone resides in, I actually not only encourage posts from those around the globe but look forward to them to share their thoughts, culture and experiences.  That is why I have created this site, we can all learn from one another.  But again read my post as I quoted above.

I' haven't made a decision yet on how I'm going to handle this for I do not choose to restrict this site.  But in order for this site to accomplish something we cannot let it become a medium filled only with pointless drivel.  For that one only needs to turn on the TV.

Naturelover - what constitutes "chaff" is a matter of opinion. What pagan said is although "silly" is an occasional nice diversion, when taken to extremes it changes the spirit that was meant to be one of lively debate of different views. I get that it isn't about who is bigger or better, thats what not being part of the herd is all about, no need to compare or be alike- just understanding a difference of perspective and drawing our own conclusions. It is okay to disagree.  If you consider "chaff" the farmer throws it in the air and because it lacks "substance" it seperates naturally, therefore there is no need to seperate it in any mechanical or aggressive method. People IMHO can not evolve or learn new things if they are closed minded and resistant to another's point of view whether they agree with it or not.  

Also It isn't about visiting every thread everyday. There are times when I may not make one peep in days or more, I tend to lurk,  but when I do  comment it is on something I do feel is interesting, or that I don't understand and needs a comment so I can try to understand better someone else position.

Here's the point, if someone has something to say no matter "how silly" myself or anyone else may think it is, it's their point.  Therefore I will respect it for being that, but there are extremes that I have pointed out and what are those?  Coming in, creating a number of very shallow threads only to disappear then come in and create a number of other one liner threads and not following up on any of them.  This is very disruptive and tends to trash/destroy a forum.

As I said I need to think about this a bit and see how I am going to structure the site in a manner to minimize this behavior without restricting the freedom of expression/thought here.

That's the problem. These one-liner threads are shallow to the point where no supporting links are provided, no response to our exception to these threads are provided, yet there are some defensive posturing on one's "right" to fill up this forum with minutia. That's where I take exeption. I ccould give a rat's ass about herd topis like thr fashion bullshit, and the pictures that came with them. I could are less about jeans. It has nothing to do with any important in this world. Its trivial.

This is a forum to disuss on deeper levels, the truth about government and its impending control. We are experts in the computer fields. We are creative individuals who are way beyond the basic bullshit that has been brought up in these stupid one-liner threads that begin with the word "so" and have grammar that is so poor that it has the look of some teenager who rote it. We are lookin for inp-depth, mature postings, with true meaning and truth. If that is challlenged, back it up. If you ccan't back it up, admit it and the fact that you just learned something.

Is that too much to ask for?

I want to make it clear we're not Grammar Nazi's around here.  I'm not going to expect anyone here to have proper grammar, especially when mine sucks.  Nor do we expect people especially those were English isn't their native language.

I need to make that perfectly clear .........

Normally, I wouldn't take exception and I agree with you in principle. But lately, topic heading after topic heading have had such poor grammar, it as hard to deipher what those threads were actually about. Couple that with your recent announcement about spell checking that actually works, gives me a frustration headache.

I know, its just me....

Oh I dunno about that MF, I have found myself saying HUH!?? ? quite a few times. usually I can get the general idea what the idea was... usually but not always

Thought it was just me

While I agree with the abundance of minutia topics, the first line of defense is don't post in them. If no interest is shown they will get pushed down the list and forgotten.

Easy Peasy

No, it wasn't you, Mockingbird. They simply made no sense at all.

And boan, they were pushing down all of the quality topics with that said minutia. Man, it's nice to see a normal day around here again.

I too tired of seeing the content shift from real issues faced in the world today to some real shit posted.   My initial reaction was to give them a spoonful of crap then tired of that.  As a result I began to avoid participation and contribution of perspective - I simply got tired of scrolling through the one liners, attempting to decipher them to finally get to topics of interest.

I too encourage people from foreign countries to offer up their perspectives, all that i ask is attempt to exercise some English in the process.  We don't have a translator on staff or a button to push for English implemented.  I just closed my account with a service provider becasue the first recorded message played was in Spanish and the option to select English was second in line - well last time I checked English is the primary and dominant language spoken in this country!  I have nothing against other languages, but in all the countries I have traveled to the local language always received priority in the process of communication!

Humor is great and there is in fact a forum just for that as for other topics so please use them accordingly!  If you have an opinion by all means share it so we can all learn about differing perspectives and maybe even evolve a bit in the process.

I agree. The fact that they live in other countries have no effect upon my, as my as the actual content of their messages. We aim for true change here, and not acceptance of the status quo, which it what I had been noticing, in one-liners, no less.