Philosophy is great to study right? With it people learn to reason better and even develops their minds to think even a lot better. So, don't you think it would be great for schools to intoduce it to elementary or even in high school? Just a thought.
You know I can't argue with that, it should be included like the Arts. But then if they would do that the Herd Masters would have a tougher time Controlling the Herd when people can think for themselves 
Actually, my son will be taking his first philosphy class in High School, it is offered at the senior level (not surprised). I made sure I taught him critical thinking and deductive reasoning while he was a freshmen. Philosophy came when he was a sophmore. I have to admit this made him quite the thorn in the sides of his instructors because he was never afraid to ask the questions that THEY would omit or avoid altogether. I think as a student this help my son considerably, his grades show it even if the staff found it annoying.
IMHO why do we think it is the schools job to educate our children exclusivily. Yes they are paid thru our tax dollars but had I as a parent left it all up to the schools my son would have missed out on alot and been full of mis-information.
The School System needs drastic reform to something like it was before Reagan as a first step. What we pay for now amounts to little more than daycare with some priming for being good little sheep. Education is supposed to be something that gives us a return on our investment, to complement the natural learning kids receive at home. NOT something that needs to be undone or fought against. We may as well homeschool all of our kids if the best of their education happens at home.
The School System needs drastic reform to something like it was before Reagan as a first step. What we pay for now amounts to little more than daycare with some priming for being good little sheep. Education is supposed to be something that gives us a return on our investment, to complement the natural learning kids receive at home. NOT something that needs to be undone or fought against. We may as well homeschool all of our kids if the best of their education happens at home.
aaah I think we need to go back a bit there Fremen, it was Carter who created the National Board of Education. It was also Carter who kicked off the deregulation and Free Trade 
Fremen wrote:The School System needs drastic reform to something like it was before Reagan as a first step. What we pay for now amounts to little more than daycare with some priming for being good little sheep. Education is supposed to be something that gives us a return on our investment, to complement the natural learning kids receive at home. NOT something that needs to be undone or fought against. We may as well homeschool all of our kids if the best of their education happens at home.
aaah I think we need to go back a bit there Fremen, it was Carter who created the National Board of Education. It was also Carter who kicked off the deregulation and Free Trade
I chose Reagan because he ran rampant with textbook reform, but we can go back further if you like, because it certainly could have been policy he just kept going with. At least before Reagan, I could still take Civics class. That was hardly my point, though. And it was my starting point, not my final solution. 
Pagan wrote:Fremen wrote:The School System needs drastic reform to something like it was before Reagan as a first step. What we pay for now amounts to little more than daycare with some priming for being good little sheep. Education is supposed to be something that gives us a return on our investment, to complement the natural learning kids receive at home. NOT something that needs to be undone or fought against. We may as well homeschool all of our kids if the best of their education happens at home.
aaah I think we need to go back a bit there Fremen, it was Carter who created the National Board of Education. It was also Carter who kicked off the deregulation and Free Trade
I chose Reagan because he ran rampant with textbook reform, but we can go back further if you like, because it certainly could have been policy he just kept going with. At least before Reagan, I could still take Civics class. That was hardly my point, though. And it was my starting point, not my final solution.
Are you saying Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama didn't put it on overdrive?
Seriously -
Seriously, you seem to seek argument where there is none. I'm sorry I didn't list all offenders, I was simply saying that Education since Reagan has been abominable as far as my experience tells me. That's all... not trying to finger your favorite guy and leave all offenders out, I thought it was reasonable to extrapolate that I include all subsequent administrations in my assessment.
Language is a bitch.
Seriously, you seem to seek argument where there is none. I'm sorry I didn't list all offenders, I was simply saying that Education since Reagan has been abominable as far as my experience tells me. That's all... not trying to finger your favorite guy and leave all offenders out, I thought it was reasonable to extrapolate that I include all subsequent administrations in my assessment.
Language is a bitch.
You have to cut me a bit of slack, I've just dealt with to many of those who focus all the blame on one. That and you have to admit that the so called "Progressive Left" piles all on Reagan while the "NeoCons" piles all on Clinton. 
Fresh slack cut. I have to admit, I'm not as clear in my writing as I think I am, so this posting business really keeps me sharp. I sincerely appreciate your role in that process, dude. Even if you are a crazy Ronniephyte. 
It's a good way to introduce it to our youngsters but in time make them realize that they have to decide for them selves.
May be my opinion is not so original but I think that to study the philosophy and to understand it in the proper way, you must possess some vital experience. It will help to choose the right philosophical direction.
Wow you missed Jimmy Carter - I believe he was responsible for the creation of the Federal Department of Education! That is when shit really began to fall apart in that system which had problems already brewing.
You know I can't argue with that, it should be included like the Arts. But then if they would do that the Herd Masters would have a tougher time Controlling the Herd when people can think for themselves
Leave the system out of the field of philosophy education - they will screw that up too. Of course we could expect a broad cross section of philosophies to be taught - NOT! It would be just another tool to control the heard with under the guise of academia!
i also support the fact that philosophies should be added to the school education as cumpolsary
But it may have many adverts


