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Medical Marijuana

In my state we can get licenses to grow our own pot for medical purposes. I looked at the website and find that I have conditions that would qualify me for this program, but I will need about $500.00 to get set up. This doesn't include all the stuff I plan to get to grow my plants. I need to get up the energy to start the application process.

While this is a step in the right direction, it would be a lot cheaper if pot was just legal, but I will take what I can get, for now.

Do you think we will see legalization within the next 4 years?

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What state? I thought SCOTUS

What state?
I thought SCOTUS ruled that states can't override federal law in these matters on Interstate Commerce basis.

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Diane, Congrats and I hope

Diane,
Congrats and I hope you can muster the energy to apply.
I personally don't see the US legalizing it in teh next 4 yrs. I wish! It's not even legalized here in Canada - but you also don't get arrested if you're smoking it on the street. Eye-wink

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What state?
I thought SCOTUS ruled that states can't override federal law in these matters on Interstate Commerce basis.

That's interstate, not inside the state as far as I know. Once you have the license, you can smoke pot in your home and grow your own plants. In fact, the police in another city tried snagging a fellow for growing his own, and he had the medical marijuana license. the police had to return all of this plants and growing equipment.

Our city also passed a ruling that marijuana laws are to be placed at the lowest priority on the law enforcement list when dealing with people over the age of 21, so you might get a ticket for pot, but that's about it, and it has to be in conjunction with something else.

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Drug Agents Raid Medical

Drug Agents Raid Medical Marijuana Dispensary
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— Federal agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary at South Lake Tahoe. Five agents from the U. Drug Enforcement Agency were joined by local and federal authorities when they served a search warrant Thursday on Patient to Patient Collective. DEA Special Agent Gordon Taylor says agents seized between five and 10 pounds of processed marijuana and a small amount of U.

Aparently this was legal??? The federal agents don't have to adhear to state laws????
Fuck, that's sooooo messed up!

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DianaR wrote: Boanerges

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What state?
I thought SCOTUS ruled that states can't override federal law in these matters on Interstate Commerce basis.

That's interstate, not inside the state as far as I know. Once you have the license, you can smoke pot in your home and grow your own plants. In fact, the police in another city tried snagging a fellow for growing his own, and he had the medical marijuana license. the police had to return all of this plants and growing equipment.

Our city also passed a ruling that marijuana laws are to be placed at the lowest priority on the law enforcement list when dealing with people over the age of 21, so you might get a ticket for pot, but that's about it, and it has to be in conjunction with something else.



You would think. However our government corrupt so here is the actual rule.
Supreme Court allows prosecution of medical marijuana

Here is a good article from Thomas Sowell, one of my favorite conservatives that does a good job of explaining why the ruling is bullshit. Just the feds tramping on the Constitution to get what they want regardless of the law.

I do like the idea that your city has imposed but it doesn't keep the DEA from kicking your door in and arresting you!

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Will we see total

Will we see total legalisation... I honestly don't think so.

I am really curious about this license, does it limit the amount you can grow, or can you plant up and harvest as much as you want?

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Total Hypocrisy and it's

Total Hypocrisy and it's only about "Control", nothing else. Doctors can prescribe hard core narcotics, opiates, etc. but if it's Pot .......

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The FEDS let someone get

The FEDS let someone get high on something they can grow in the backyard and them miss out on tax revenue...oh hell no.

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Boanerges wrote:The FEDS let

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The FEDS let someone get high on something they can grow in the backyard and them miss out on tax revenue...oh hell no.

Not to mention the lost revenue from property seizures, thank you Joe Biden Eye-wink

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I am totally anti drugs, but

I am totally anti drugs, but what I cannot stand is the fact that our governments do not look at how alcohol is misused and the effects that it has on any one town, city centre or individual family. Alcohol is legal and, in my opinion, fuels violence.

If pot has been proven to hold medical qualities, then we should let the people who need it have it.

Simple as!!

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bubble wrote:I am totally

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I am totally anti drugs, but what I cannot stand is the fact that our governments do not look at how alcohol is misused and the effects that it has on any one town, city centre or individual family. Alcohol is legal and, in my opinion, fuels violence.

If pot has been proven to hold medical qualities, then we should let the people who need it have it.

Simple as!!


Prohibition doesn't work and has been proven so. Treat addiction for what it is, a medical condition. Everyone has addictions, food, drugs, shopping, etc. etc.

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Personally, I think a lot of

Personally, I think a lot of people take advantage of the law and its rules and the whole Med Marijuana industry has become omewhat of a scam.

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Personally, I think a lot of people take advantage of the law and its rules and the whole Med Marijuana industry has become omewhat of a scam.

Full disclosure, I gave up "recreational" drugs years and years ago but ...... The drug laws and "War on Drugs" is the scam.

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Drug Agents Raid Medical Marijuana Dispensary
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— Federal agents raided a medical marijuana dispensary at South Lake Tahoe. Five agents from the U. Drug Enforcement Agency were joined by local and federal authorities when they served a search warrant Thursday on Patient to Patient Collective. DEA Special Agent Gordon Taylor says agents seized between five and 10 pounds of processed marijuana and a small amount of U.

Aparently this was legal??? The federal agents don't have to adhear to state laws????
Fuck, that's sooooo messed up!

Check it out...dispensary. Medical Marijuana licenses here are for growth, and, like I said, when the cops tried to bust a fellow, they ended up having to return all of his stuff to him.
I haven't seen anything like this here. Could be something with state law, could be that Boulder and Denver both place it at the bottom the list. Remember, Arnold was all for the government intervention. Something tells me the Feds were invited.

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Guys, you should just move

Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

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jimbo wrote:Guys, you should

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Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

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And Americans still have this illusion of freedom Eye-wink

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Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

Rasta Mon Pot Leaf Cool

And Americans still have this illusion of freedom Eye-wink

The drug companies are terrified of people self-medicating, therefore, we will be free when the drug companies say so.

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Fremen wrote: Pagan

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And Americans still have this illusion of freedom Eye-wink

The drug companies are terrified of people self-medicating, therefore, we will be free when the drug companies say so.

No doubt!

Mod Edit: To clean up the post, remember currently quotes only handle two quotes at a time Eye-wink

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andasay wrote: Will we see

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Will we see total legalisation... I honestly don't think so.

I am really curious about this license, does it limit the amount you can grow, or can you plant up and harvest as much as you want?

You are allowed three plants. However, I know nothing about the requirements surrounding dispensaries.

Thing is, with that raid in California, could be they allowed someone without a license to purchase.

Feds have never had to honor state laws, but usually don't bother running in to enforce federal standards unless something else is driving the raid.

Like I said...there have been no raids in Colorado.

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jimbo wrote: Guys, you

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Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

Well that's a wonderful option if my husband can find the same work he has here, and we have a 24/7 interpreter for free.

Don't immigrants have to have a bunch of money inthe bank and a sponsor before they are even considered for immigration?

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jimbo wrote: Guys, you

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Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

wow.........growing 6 trees in your house with weekly production of 1.5 kilos is a great deal. but what is the price for 1.5 KG stuff.

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jimbo wrote: Guys, you

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Guys, you should just move to my country. In Holland you are allowed to grow up to six plants in your house. That should get you about 1.5 kilos ever 9 weeks or so.

wow.........growing 6 trees in your house with weekly production of 1.5 kilos is a great deal. but what is the price for 1.5 KG stuff.

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Well if you are growing it

Well if you are growing it yourself it is nominal. Now having been in the pot growing business and if you are getting only 1.5Kg you are doing something very wrong! A typical plant we grew would produce roughly 2-3KG of just buds - the leaves got tossed away or given to those who would process it into hashish.

All it takes is sunlight and a little bat poop to produce one of these plants and also some good seeds or cuttings from a mature plant.

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For medicinal purposes only,

For medicinal purposes only, right AO?

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Of course it is for

Of course it is for medicinal purposes only! Now of course one could argue that medicinal purposes include mental health. It is IMO better than ingesting a pharmaceutic like Valium, Alzaprolam etc., for relief of anxiety, stress, depression etc. It is natural, less expensive and besides it is also for myself therapeutic to work a garden and tend to my plants.

I find gardening to be relaxing, I talk to all my vegetable and herb plants as I weed around them, water and prune them. I also thank them for their fruits as I harvest them as well. For me it about connecting with them. I do the same when I prune my fruit trees. It is a holistic health experience.

Then of course there is the benefit of the social connection when I exchange my production with others. I get some of the best heirloom tomatoes white radishes I have ever eaten by exchanging with an acquaintance.

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Good idea. If so, it happened in every house we can save 30% more money, beacuse that much we are spending for medicine every month.

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We'll if you are qualified for it why not! but when this will be legalize in the next 4 years? This would be a long debate and I'm not sure what would happened to this .

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I have to ask this, "IS THE DAMN THING LEGAL OR NOT!?"

Someone needs to take that to the Supreme Court. "Let's hear it! Medical marijuana, strictly for medical purposes! Legal or not? You sure? Okay! Thank you very much!"

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I have to ask this, "IS THE DAMN THING LEGAL OR NOT!?"

Someone needs to take that to the Supreme Court. "Let's hear it! Medical marijuana, strictly for medical purposes! Legal or not? You sure? Okay! Thank you very much!"

Only thing I have to ask is the way they treat Medical Marijuana are they going to go after doctor's prescribing hard core narcotics and opiates also?  Or is it just natural herbs they have a hardon for?  Jerk Off

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The real issue arises once weed is deemed a medical cure or drug.  It no longer falls into the innocent category of "herb" and will be controled by the FDA.  If that were to happen you would see an increase in the illegal exchanges as more and more people realize they can get relief cheaper by buying it on the street!  So legalizing pot as a drug is not a good idea at all.  Simply make it legal to grow, use and exchange like say fennel, thyme, corriander etc.

Now where is that bag and bowel stashed!

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The real issue arises once weed is deemed a medical cure or drug.  It no longer falls into the innocent category of "herb" and will be controled by the FDA.  If that were to happen you would see an increase in the illegal exchanges as more and more people realize they can get relief cheaper by buying it on the street!  So legalizing pot as a drug is not a good idea at all.  Simply make it legal to grow, use and exchange like say fennel, thyme, corriander etc.

Now where is that bag and bowel stashed!

So when someone like a Doctor says to someone suffering from Scurvy to eat an Orange, does that mean Oranges must now be controlled by the FDA?

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Dude, all food IS controlled by the FDA! 

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Dude, all food IS controlled by the FDA! 

You know what I mean, controlled as a DRUG!   I know, I know I fat fingered it.

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But you raise probably the most important issue - they can take any item from the food column and put it in the drug column without a peep from the public, right?

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But you raise probably the most important issue - they can take any item from the food column and put it in the drug column without a peep from the public, right?

All at that whim of the Puppet Masters who yank the string and there are people who want them to have even more control, you know Government run healthcare?  Eye-wink

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But you raise probably the most important issue - they can take any item from the food column and put it in the drug column without a peep from the public, right?

All at that whim of the Puppet Masters who yank the string and there are people who want them to have even more control, you know Government run healthcare?  Eye-wink

In the Orwellian present, it is difficult sometimes to put two-and-two together, people are catching on...

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But you raise probably the most important issue - they can take any item from the food column and put it in the drug column without a peep from the public, right?

All at that whim of the Puppet Masters who yank the string and there are people who want them to have even more control, you know Government run healthcare?  Eye-wink

In the Orwellian present, it is difficult sometimes to put two-and-two together, people are catching on...

Yes, I believe people "may" be waking up, that is at least I hope they are.  Take a look at the piece I posted over in the "Liberalism" forum about Obama loosing his base.  The second one catch the end where the comparison of facism is very relavent and this was Air America no doubt!

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Oh, I know.  I honestly feel that the folks who were just incensed about Bush are so hyper-vigilant about this stuff now, that they refuse to toe any line.  Hard-core party hacks are having discussions with former allies wondering where the 'Kumbaya' went and why they have that not-so-fresh feeling.  The videos of Congress having group S&M sex with Satan hasn't helped with the base support either.  What a time to be a hack...

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Oh, I know.  I honestly feel that the folks who were just incensed about Bush are so hyper-vigilant about this stuff now, that they refuse to toe any line.  Hard-core party hacks are having discussions with former allies wondering where the 'Kumbaya' went and why they have that not-so-fresh feeling.  The videos of Congress having group S&M sex with Satan hasn't helped with the base support either.  What a time to be a hack...

My hope is that maybe this will wake up the majority to the fact we need, no not need but MUST have a complete house cleaning of government.  That IMO is our only hope if we are to survive as a people.  We must throw every single one of these pricks out on their ass so that we can gut the power the Puppet Masters have on us.

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