Rhodes Scholar

Excerpts from Cecil Rhodes "Confession of Faith". Take particular interest in the final paragraph

 

It often strikes a man to inquire what is the chief goal in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit that if we had retained America there would at this moment be millions more of English living. I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at

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present inhabited by the most despicable specimens of human beings what an alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives. I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simply means the end of all wars, at this moment had we not lost America I believe we could have stopped the Russian-Turkish war by merely refusing money and supplies. Having these ideas what scheme could we think of to forward this object. I look into history and I read the story of the Jesuits I see what they were able to do in a bad cause and I might say under bad leaders.

In the present day I became a member of the Masonic order I see the wealth and power they possess the influence they hold and I think over their ceremonies and I wonder that a large body of men can devote themselves to what at times appear the most ridiculous and absurd rites without an object and without an end.

The idea gleaming and dancing before one's eyes like a will-of-the wisp at last frames itself into a plan. Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire. What a dream, but yet it is probable, it is possible. I once heard it argued by a fellow in my own college, I am sorry to own it by an Englishman, that it was a good thing for us that we have lost the United States. There are some subjects on which there can be no arguments, and to an Englishman this is one of them, but even from an American's point of view just picture what they have lost, look at their government, are not the frauds that yearly come before the public view a disgrace to any country and especially their's which is the finest in the world. Would they have occurred had they remained under English rule great as they have become how infinitely greater they would have been with the softening and elevating influences of English rule, think of those countless 000's of Englishmen that during the last 100 years would have crossed the Atlantic and settled and populated the United States. Would they have not made without any prejudice a finer country of it than the low class Irish and German emigrants? All this we have lost and that country loses owing to whom? Owing to two or three ignorant pig-headed statesmen of the last century, at their door lies the blame. Do you

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ever feel mad? do you ever feel murderous. I think I do with those men. I bring facts to prove my assertions. Does an English father when his sons wish to emigrate ever think of suggesting emigration under another flag, never - it would seem a disgrace to suggest such a thing I think that we all think that poverty is better under our own flag rather than wealth under a foreign one.

Put your mind into another train of thought. Fancy Australia discovered and colonised under the French flag, what would it mean merely several millions of English unborn that at present exist we learn from the past and to form our future. We learn through having lost to cling to what we possess. We know the size of the world we know the total extent. Africa is still lying ready for us it is our duty to take it. It is our duty to seize every opportunity of acquiring more territory and we should keep this one idea steadily before our eyes that more territory simply means more of the Anglo-Saxon race more of the best the most human, most honourable race the world possesses.

To forward such a scheme what a splendid help a secret society would be a society not openly acknowledged but who would work in secret for such an object.

I contend that there are at the present moment numbers of the ablest men in the world who would devote their whole lives to it. I often think what a loss to the English nation in some respects the abolition of the Rotten Borough System has been. What thought strikes a man entering the house of commons, the assembly that rules the whole world? I think it is the mediocrity of the men but what is the cause. It is simply - an assembly of wealth of men whose lives have been spent in the accumulation of money and whose time has been too much engaged to be able to spare any for the study of past history. And yet in the hands of such men rest our destinies. Do men like the great Pitt, and Bourke and Sheridan not now exist. I contend they do. There are men now living with I know no other term the mega chschegis of Aristotle but there are not ways for enabling them to serve their Country. They live and die unused unemployed. What has been the main cause of the success of the Romish Church? The fact that every enthusiast, call it if you like every madman finds employment in it. Let us form the same kind of society a Church for the extension of the British Empire. A society which should have its members in every part of the British Empire working with one object and one idea we should have its members placed at our universities and our schools and should watch the English youth passing through their hands just one

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perhaps in every thousand would have the mind and feelings for such an object, he should be tried in every way, he should be tested whether he is endurant, possessed of eloquence, disregardful of the petty details of life, and if found to be such, then elected and bound by oath to serve for the rest of his life in his Country. He should then be supported if without means by the Society and sent to that part of the Empire where it was felt he was needed.

Take another case, let us fancy a man who finds himself his own master with ample means on attaining his majority whether he puts the question directly to himself or not, still like the old story of virtue and vice in the Memorabilia a fight goes on in him as to what he should do. Take it he plunges into dissipation there is nothing too reckless he does not attempt but after a time his life pulls on him, he mentally says this is not good enough, he changes his life, he reforms, he travels, he thinks now I have found the chief good in life, the novelty wears off, and he tires, to change again, he goes into the far interior after the wild game he thinks at last I've found that in life of which I cannot tire, again he is disappointed. He returns he thinks is there nothing I can do in life? Here I am with means, with a good house, with everything that is to envied and yet I am not happy I am tired of life he possesses within him a portion of the mega chschegis of Aristotle but he knows it not, to such a man the Society should go, should test, and should finally show him the greatness of the scheme and list him as a member.

Take one more case of the younger son with high thoughts, high aspirations, endowed by nature with all the faculties to make a great man, and with the sole wish in his life to serve his Country but he lacks two things the means and the opportunity, ever troubled by a sort of inward deity urging him on to high and noble deeds, he is compelled to pass his time in some occupation which furnishes him with mere existence, he lives unhappily and dies miserably. Such men as these the Society should search out and use for the furtherance of their object.

(In every Colonial legislature the Society should attempt to have its members prepared at all times to vote or speak and advocate the closer union of England and the colonies, to crush all disloyalty and every movement for the severance of our Empire. The Society should inspire and even own portions of the press for the press rules the mind of the people. The Society should always be searching for members who might by their position in the world by their energies or character forward the object but the ballot and test for admittance should be severe)

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Once make it common and it fails. Take a man of great wealth who is bereft of his children perhaps having his mind soured by some bitter disappointment who shuts himself up separate from his neighbours and makes up his mind to a miserable existence. To such men as these the society should go gradually disclose the greatness of their scheme and entreat him to throw in his life and property with them for this object. I think that there are thousands now existing who would eagerly grasp at the opportunity. Such are the heads of my scheme.

For fear that death might cut me off before the time for attempting its development I leave all my worldly goods in trust to S. G. Shippard and the Secretary for the Colonies at the time of my death to try to form such a Society with such an object.

It is up to free thinkers and revolutionaries to prevent men like this from ever ruling. Thje farther you go back kinto the history of civilization the closer the ruler is to the people. In tribal hunter gatherer societies there is only a nominal "head man" who rules by virtue of his wisdom and ability to hunt or bring the other hunters to game. When they fail to do so consistantly then another man will become "head man". When you look at pre-christian(europe) and pre-jewish civilization (sumar) the rulers ruled at the will of the people if the crops failed consistantly he was usually deposed and another wise strong man was put in place ( men ruled at the whims of the gods )In Ireland there was a tree it was known as the tree of Odin ( Yaggrissle) and it was this tree that "ST."Patrick cut down ( I am Irish and "ST. Patrick turns my stomach )In this tree were hundreds maybe thousands of skeletons and hung men. This was the tree where the King of the Druidic world ( Celts or Gauls it is possible these people were the decendants of the Trojans ) was hung every year. This was a great honor to be choosen king because it was the sacrifice of the king that kept the people safe and fed it wasnt until after this tree was destroyed that the vikings began their raids on the Irish and english and french. when this tree was cut down the irish people believed the power of his god was greater than the power of the mother goddess and they all fell in line and became the slaves of a Roman slave. Irish catholicism was renouned thru out the dark ages and even contested the Mother church to the point that the pope split the monestaries and forced them to follow the rules put forth by St. Benedict. I do not believe that all men wish to hold power I believe good men will allow us to hold our own power and will never try to force anyone to be who or what they are not. It is the Roman way to force civilization on other peoples and we still live in the Roman Empire. eventually someone will have a better idea and it will turn out to be
the old ways and we will come back to true majic and power from the spiritual world that will rule not money and guns but prestige and respect. Reciprocity like the tribal peoples of the Kalihari and the amazon and malaysia and new guinea and borneo and new zealand.

Very Enlightening

I've always thought history to be very enlightening, IMO not enough attention is given to the study of it. It always seems to be the fate of Civilization to repeat the mistakes of the past because we don't devote enough attention to the lessons learned. But then again we also have to temper the history we know with the knowledge that History is usually always written by the victor. So we must never take it as an "Absolute" and thus continue to explore it to insure we have an accurate record, know what I mean?

Anyway it simply amazes me that not much focus was given to Clinton with his remarks that his mentor was "Carroll Quigley" and that he was a "Rhodes Scholar", this is when I started looking into it. Frankly it left a chill up my spin for this was being touted as a "Good Thing". Now I'm not a Tin Foil Hat wearing lunatic looking to live in a cave and eat bugs and berries, but I'm not a fucking idiot either. When something is brought up I look at it and try to go to the source. The writings of Cecil, his rants and his motivations and it all reads of a Megalomaniac, this is considered a qualification?

It did nothing other than show me how much the people have become Sheep, the "Herd" dominates

Odin is a god from Norse Mythology, I wouldn't put a lot of stake in his actual existence or the Yggdrasill tree as the interpretations and opinions regarding it vary significantly. If memory servers me it (the tree) was reported to have reached into the heavens with three roots at its base. This was I believe the reported tree that Odin hung himself in self-sacrifice. A wonderful mythological story but not much of a historical accounting based on any factual data. We have a similar story of myth, it is called "Jack and the Beanstalk", you may have heard of it.

I am curious as to your source of disgust regarding St. Patty? I know you said he makes you vomit - but is it him or the green beer consumed during the annual celebration? He of course has many myths attached to him too, like driving snakes out of Ireland. There is some historical data supporting a person who took on a name of Patrick but his actual origin is greatly contested, even his affiliation with Catholicism is often questioned. But hey you know those Irish like to drink a lot and stories (myths) abound within the culture.

As far as the pre-christian (european) and pre-jewish (Sumar???) civilizations where rulers ruled at the will of the people, you certainly must be excluding Egyptian rulers correct?

Are you sure we still live in the Roman Empire? Damn I must be on another planet! By the way someone or more accurately several people came up with a better idea on governance - we in America refer to them as the Founding Fathers and the idea they developed is what we call Democracy. The foundation upon which this Democratic concept was built is clearly define in two documents - The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. You may have heard or read about it - the phrase "We the People" may jog your memory!

I certainly would enjoy reading the history books you aave been reading they sound interesting and a great source of mythology and unique perspectives.

That was an interesting trip through the realm of mythology, eh? For the record, St. Patrick - the 'snakes' were the pagans in Ireland. Just a bit of history/myth crossover - none of us was there to verify the facts, huh?
spacecowboy was trying to give examples of the leaders in history whose very lives belonged to the people and loosely attributes the St. Patrick myth to a severance of that intimate connection.
The role of king was a privileged and temporary honor as he was the Consort of the Goddess and literally fertilised her. When the crops failed, he was obviously not fertile any longer and was sacrificed so that the next king could assume the role. The belief of a land's health being directly tied to the king's is a recurring theme in myth as you well know.
I'm lost from that point on in the stream of consciousness above, but I know we haven't heard the last from spacecowboy on the subject.

I was looking forward to spacecowboy's reply. I hope I haven't frightened him away or offended him in any manner. He offers some unique perspectives and that is always a good thing. it is not about disagreeing but more importantly about the exchange of thought and then assessing the others point of view. That is what keeps us on the path of growth.

Naw, I think he'll be around.