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Mon, 06/29/2009 - 11:16am

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Vacuum Energy Source

Now this is really interesting, Vacuum as an energy source. Just think of not only the application of it here on Earth, but also for space travel.

Don't know if this is bunk or not but here's the papers on it

Professor Turtur's basic explanation of his theory here

Professor Turtur's paper here

Here are his publications, he does look legit and not a whack job.

[1] Magnetic After- Effects in Ultrathin Cobalt- Films with Perpendicular Anisotropy

G. Bayreuther, P.Bruno, G.Lugert, D. Renard, C.Turtur: Thin Solid Films, Vol.175 (1989), S.342

[2] Magnetic After- Effects in Ultrathin Ferromagnetic Films

G. Bayreuther, P.Bruno, G.Lugert, C.Turtur: Phys. Rev. B., Vol.40, No.10 (1989), S.7399

[3] Magnetic Moment of a Cr- Monolayer on Fe(100)

C.Turtur, G.Bayreuther: Phys. Rev. Lett., Vol.72 (1994), S.1557

[4] Federoptimierung mit der Rechenmethode der Finiten Elemente

Claus W. Turtur: DRAHT, No.54 (1994), S.514

[5] Optimierung von Tellerfedern mit ANSYS

Claus W. Turtur: Handbuch zum CAD-FEM Users Meeting 1994, Artikel Nr. 8

[6] Basic Questions in Disc Spring Design

Claus W. Turtur: American Fastener Journal, Vol.11, No.6 (1994), S.28

[7] Calculation Methods and Formulas for Disc Springs

Claus W. Turtur: American Fastener Journal, Vol.12, No.1 (1995), S.24

[8] Fatigue Life Enhancement of Disc Springs by Optimizing the Geometry

Claus W. Turtur: American Fastener Journal, Vol.12, No.3 (1995), S.17

[9] Forces, Stresses and Fatigue Lifes of Coned Disc Springs Used in Kennametal Quick Change Tooling

R.Erickson, E.Isakov, K.Schneider, C.Turtur: Machine Design, Vol.9 (1995), S. 105

[10] Practical Applications for Disc Springs: Various Examples

Claus W. Turtur: American Fastener Journal , Vol.12, No.4 (1995), S.10

[11] How Disc Springs are Manufactured: A Production Overview

Claus W. Turtur: Submitted to Fastening Magazine

[12] Statische und dynamische Wechselwirkungen

Claus W. Turtur: Technische Rundschau, 93.Jahrgang, Nov. 2001, Heft 22, S. 36

[13] Wechselwirkungsenergie-basierte Masse

Claus W. Turtur: Technische Rundschau, 95.Jahrgang, Mai 2003, Heft 10, S.28

[14] A Connection between Gravitation and other Interactions

Claus W. Turtur: Nexus Magazine, Vol.11, No.2

Feb./March 2004 edition in Australia and March/April edition in Canada/USA

[15] Does cosmological vacuum energy density have an electric reason ?

Claus W. Turtur: http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403278 (März 2004)

[16] An easy way to Gravimagnetism

Claus W. Turtur: http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/0406078 (Juni 2004)

[17] Vakuumenergiedichte

Claus W. Turtur: Technische Rundschau, 96.Jahrgang, 29. Okt. 2004, Heft Nr. 21, S. 16

[18] Prüfungstrainer Mathematik, Klausur- und Übungsaufgaben mit vollständigen Musterlösungen

Claus W. Turtur, Lehrbuch mit 542 Seiten im Teubner Verlag, März 2006, ISBN 3-8351-0023-8

[19] A Theoretical Determination of the Electron’s Mass

Claus W. Turtur, Galilean Electrodynamics & GED East, Volume 17, Special Issues 2, Fall 2006, S.23-29

[20] Vakuum als Energiequelle

Claus W. Turtur: Technische Rundschau, 98.Jahrgang, 10. Nov. 2006, Heft Nr. 21, S. 158

[21] Prüfungstrainer Physik, Klausur- und Übungsaufgaben mit vollständigen Musterlösungen

Claus W. Turtur, Lehrbuch mit 570 Seiten im Teubner Verlag, März 2007, ISBN 978-3-8351-0137-1

[22] A Hypothesis regarding the Refraction of Light and the precise planning of an Experiment for its Verification

Claus W. Turtur: http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/0703721 (Version Nr.1 im März 2007)

Wesentlich verbesserte Version Nr.2 vom November 2007: A Hypothesis for the Speed of Propa-

gation of Light in electric and magnetic fields and the planning of an Experiment for its Verification

[23] Systematics of the Energy Density of Vacuum Fluctuations and Geometrodynamical Excitones

Claus W. Turtur, Physics Essays, Vol#20, No.2 (Juni 2007)

[24] A step towards the Analysis of the Influence of an electrical Field on the Propagation of Light.

Claus W. Turtur: http://arXiv.org/abs/0710.1532 (Oktober 2007)

[25] Two Paradoxes of the Existence of electric Charge

Claus W. Turtur: http://arXiv.org/abs/0710.3253 (Oktober 2007)

[26] Prüfungstrainer Mathematik, Klausur- und Übungsaufgaben mit vollständigen Musterlösungen, 2.Auflage

Claus W. Turtur, Lehrbuch mit 600 Seiten im Teubner Verlag, Oktober 2007, ISBN 3-8351-0211-8

[27] About the Electrostatic Field following Coulomb’s law with additional Consideration of the finite speed of propagation

following the theory of Relativity, Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 112 (11.

December 2007)

[28] Two Paradoxes of the Existence of magnetic Fields, Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article

number 113, (19. December 2007)

[29] A Motor driven by Electrostatic Forces, Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 119, (18.

Februar 2008)

[30] Conversion of vacuum-energy into mechanical energy: First approach to an experimental Verification,

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Observation number 43, (31. March 2008)

[31] Conversion of vacuum-energy into mechanical energy: Successful experimental Verification

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 124, (2. April 2008)

[32] An electrostatic rotor with a mechanical bearing

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Observation number 45, (11. April 2008)

[33] A magnetic rotor to convert vacuum-energy into mechanical energy

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 130, (21. Mai 2008)

[34] Conversion of vacuum-energy into mechanical energy

Claus W. Turtur, The General Science Journal, ISSN 1916-5382 (5. Juni 2008)

In Internet abrufbar unter http://wbabin.net/physics/turtur.pdf

[35] Raumenergie, im Labor sichtbar gemacht

Claus W. Turtur, DVR-Info, Mitgliederinformation der Deutschen Vereinigung für Raumenergie e.V.

ISSN 1860-4595 (Jg.5, Nr. 1/2, März/Juni 2008), S. 8-11

[36] A QED-model for the Energy of the Vacuum and an Explanation of its Conversion into Mechanical Energy

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 138, (4. Sept. 2008)

[37] The role of Ionic Wind for the Electrostatic Rotor to convert Vacuum Energy into Mechanical Energy

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Observation number 49, (16. Sept. 2008)

[38] Conversion of Vacuum-Energy into Mechanical Energy under Vacuum Conditions

Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 141, (3. Dez. 2008)

[39] Wandlung von Vakuumenergie elektromagnetischer Nullpunktsoszillationen in klassische mechanische Energie

Claus W. Turtur, The General Science Journal, ISSN 1916-5382 (3. Januar 2009)

In Internet abrufbar unter http://wbabin.net/physics/turtur1.pdf

[40] Definite Proof for the Conversion of vacuum-energy into mechanical energy based on the Measurement of Machine

Power, Claus W. Turtur, PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 155, (2. April 2009)

[41] Conversion of the Vacuum-energy of electromagnetic zero point oscillations into Classical Mechanical Energy

Claus W. Turtur, The General Science Journal, ISSN 1916-5382 (5. Mai 2009)

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Mon, 06/29/2009 - 11:28am

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Maybe they can find the vacuum all our tax dollars are going into and use it!

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Mon, 06/29/2009 - 11:39am

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Re: Vacuum Energy Source

It's called a "Black Hole"

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 1:27am

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'm sure that the using of the vacuum energy is the most perspective way of the development of the modern energetics. Today we have some examples of the using of vacuum energy. One of such examples is the rocket engine.

Mon, 08/03/2009 - 1:36am

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The perfect picture but what it has in common with the Black Holes? The scientist of the world is still arguing about the nature and the phenomenon of the Black Holes. I think that the disclosure of the mystery of Black Holes will bring us the eternal source of the energy.

Mon, 08/03/2009 - 9:31am

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Oh boy this is great news! If I go to the local Hoover dealer can I get a "Cash for Clunker" trade in?

Does this mean that witches will be trading in their brooms for more efficient vacuum cleaners?

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 9:38am

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Basically, it means that we can count on these idiotic, absolutist "scenarios" from you from this point forward, rather than intelligent, open-minded discussion, AO.

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 9:57am

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

Basically, it means that we can count on these idiotic, absolutist "scenarios" from you from this point forward, rather than intelligent, open-minded discussion, AO.

Now I see you recently have been using the word "absolutist" as a derogatory label for opposing thoughts. Very interesting as this behavior of negative labeling is a common herding tactic and weak attempt to discredit any opposition.

The old cliche' "the pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind!

Something to consider:
Absolutism - (1) Political System - a political system in which the power of a ruler is unchecked and absolute. (2)theory of objective values - a philosophical theory in which values such as truth or morality are absolute and not conditional upon human perception.

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Absolutist - Any doctrine involving the existence of some metaphysical or axiological principle that is absolute, or not relative

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 10:33am

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

Absolutist - Any doctrine involving the existence of some metaphysical or axiological principle that is absolute, or not relative

So as they say "if the shoe fits"!
Try SATIRE next and then get a grip!

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 10:36am

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Satire?

Is THAT what that is?

There certainly is a lot of "satire" out there these days...... Especially when it involves politics vs. clear thinking......

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 10:41am

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When the alternative is absurdity, satire is a great release valve!

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 11:06am

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I prefer clear thought these days.

It pales in comparison to "satire".....

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 3:47pm

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Getting too serious around here, here's to your obsession with the "absolute" buzz word MF -

Vacum Sex

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 7:30pm

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HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE.......

Then maybe the government will now support "cash for cluckers"!!!!! Ask boan or AO!

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 11:16pm

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

I prefer clear thought these days.

It pales in comparison to "satire".....

You may want to re-think that one buddy!
Clear thinking as you so aptly put it indeed "pales in comparison!
Hahahaha

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Mon, 08/03/2009 - 11:18pm

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Pagan that image provided is "absolutely" too fucking funny!

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Uhhhh.... CLEAR thinking REQUIRES BOTH the PROS as well as the CONS in any debate.

Telling me that the cash for clunkers program might someday support the "chicken industry" someday definitely leaves some logic behind. Especially when their is no supporting evidence to supportt such an outrageous claim.

Your thoughts?

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The word "delusional" comes to mind!

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The word "one-sided" remains in my mind.....

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I like the prospect of a new program called "pennies for prostitutes" those poor folk are really suffering during these tough economic times. As for the "cash for cluckers" - Roosevelt circumvented that need by putting a chicken in every pot! By the way that was just the beginning of the advancement of socialism in America. I love history, don't you?

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All joking aside, I'm left wondering just what comments like those actually ADD to a discussion. This site risks objectivity problems if this is to be the norm of any settlement. If "fuck it" is the best you can do, please tell me now.....

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Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:11am

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We'll let's go back to Vacuum energy then to let them cool of a bit ^^...

It's a good possiblity, If this can be generated it would be a never ending source of energy.

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Whew, now I can sleep at night - for a minute there, I was sure that we would have to go solar- or wind- or super-huge-tower-thingy-powered. So glad that the 'energy' companies will be in charge of harvesting some unknowably-dangerous energy source and charging me my first-born to use the electricity generated by it. There is no such thing as a free energy source, and I'm sure the disasters that Exxon caused with oil will pale in comparison to the disasters created with vacuum.

I'm such a hater...

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Thu, 08/20/2009 - 10:37am

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Just like hydrogen it is a nice thought, weak promise and certainly not worth the cost of further research IMO.

But then I recall Joni could suck an orange through a soda straw - now there was some vacuum power! There may be some merit in this vacuum thing after all!

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Ok, so anyway. I am interested in how I can use this source at home. Could I be creating a power source while I'm vacuuming the carpet to offset the power I am already using?

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Just like hydrogen it is a nice thought, weak promise and certainly not worth the cost of further research IMO

Your utter ignorance is on full display here, AO!

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Just like hydrogen it is a nice thought, weak promise and certainly not worth the cost of further research IMO

Your utter ignorance is on full display here, AO!

No ignorance is not accepting the scientific fact about shit. There simply is no net gain on hydrogen production - it takes more energy to produce it than what it delvers - that my friend is scientific fact regardless of how much you try to convince others differently. Now if you can produce a source of pure hydrogen in natural form you may have a valid point. Nuclear power remains the cheapest and cleanest form of energy currently available to the human race! All the alternatives are nice dreams but unfortunately not a reality. Do the research before you make unsupportable accusations about ignorance - yours my friend is blantantly obvious!

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great news if that possible because it can be used in the spaceships

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

Just like hydrogen it is a nice thought, weak promise and certainly not worth the cost of further research IMO

Your utter ignorance is on full display here, AO!

No ignorance is not accepting the scientific fact about shit. There simply is no net gain on hydrogen production - it takes more energy to produce it than what it delvers - that my friend is scientific fact regardless of how much you try to convince others differently. Now if you can produce a source of pure hydrogen in natural form you may have a valid point. Nuclear power remains the cheapest and cleanest form of energy currently available to the human race! All the alternatives are nice dreams but unfortunately not a reality. Do the research before you make unsupportable accusations about ignorance - yours my friend is blantantly obvious!

Pot calling the kettle black much?

http://nuclearinfo.net/Nuclearpower/WebHomeCostOfNuclearPower

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/energy/stories/the-hidden-costs-of-nuclear-power

http://web.mit.edu/nuclearpower/

The only one I could find that even mentions insurance:

http://timeforchange.org/cost-advantage-of-nuclear-energy-pros-cons

It is difficult to understand why nuclear power in contrast to electricity produced by any other process does not have to bear the cost of its own risks and assign it to the product costs. Why is there no transparency of costs in this particular case?

If for example nuclear power plants were to be insured for 300 billions Euro (400 billions USD), the cost of nuclear electricity would be increased by 0.031 to 0.063 Euro (by 4 to 8 US-cents) per kWh. This would increase the current production cost by more than 100% and therefore make nuclear power economically much less attractive compared to electricity from renewable sources. The committee for energy from the National Council of Switzerland concluded „...increasing the legal liability to 300 billions Euro (400 billions USD) ... would basically make it impossible to implement new nuclear power plants."

It is very surprising to see that the nation carries the risks for the operators of nuclear power plants while operators of other technologies to generate electricity have to carry the risks themselves. The cost for electricity from non-nuclear sources does of course include the respective costs for the liability insurance. This is not the case for nuclear power, however. Apparently, nuclear power can only be competitive if the cost of the risks involved are paid by someone else.

Every source of information has its biases, but I guarantee that every source that claims that nuclear power is safe, clean, and especially cheap has a back door industry selling the Brooklyn Bridge to idiots.

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Hm... I remember my physics teacher showing me a Crooks Machine once. It was a small windmill-like thing in a glass bubble, which was in a vacuum. If it was exposed to light, it would rotate freely, making for perpetual movement. Although, it's not really good for power generation since its such a frail machine. Why does perpetual movement have to suck so much?

Nothing to do with this though, but there's plenty of vacuum in space, and vacuums are also very easy to create too. Although, since I didn't pay attention in physics much, a lot of the technicals go right over my head. XD

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbeE0iI2LZg this scenario shows just how much energy derived from vacuums would cost the average person, think of the life cycle of such a device, and the addictive behaviors that this poor boy displays in the face of such phenomenal energy, HAHAHA just joking but I would think that this site is a place for much heckling, and back and forth endless arguing. STATEMENT CONCLUDED

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Oh but wait a moment I feel an exceleration coming on - no wait it is just methane - no vacuum but it moves me oh so warmly!

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