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Posted by jeannesager on August 14th, 2009 at 8:28 am

Parents Sue to Keep Kids From Having to Be Nice to Gays

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You know all those schools being sued for NOT protecting kids from bullying? A California school district is another boat going in the other direction. Parents are suing the Alameda schools for requiring their kids learn to BE NICE to other kids. Gasp!

Of course these kids aren’t any old kids - they’re lesbian, gay and transgender kids who the school district dares to think should be protected from getting their asses kicked on the playground.  Yes, dear readers, they’re teaching kids to be nice to the fags!

And their parents want none of it. They’re suing on the basis of religious freedom to keep their kids OUT of the anti-bullying workshops. The district has thus far said no to requests that their kids be allowed to opt out, prompting the parents to decry indoctrination into the gay lifestyle.

Because a teacher telling your kid not to call the other kid a queer is tantamount to telling your son to go kiss the other little boy on the lips, right?

I’m willing to grant that not everyone “agrees” with homosexuality (whether or not I agree with THEM is another issue). But I’m hard-pressed to see how telling kids not to say hurtful things to other kids, not to physically hurt other kids, etc. is indoctrination into another lifestyle. I wouldn’t let my child kick an evangelical Christian .  .  . that doesn’t mean I’m training her to become one.

If these parents are so afraid their kids are going to encounter a bit of gayness in the world, I think it’s time they home school, how ’bout you?

 

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Just come out and say it, "We're a bunch of homophobes and we don't want our children to respect gay people!". But religious freedom? All the Bible says that it's an abomination (just like shrimp and pigs), it doesn't say "BURN BURN BURN!!". Typical of Christians, they obviously ignored Jesus saying "Love your enemy" and God himself saying "Love thy neighbor."

Hell, if I had a gay kid, I'd say "I don't want my kid exposed to intolerance!" and let it snowball, since I love to parody these people.

 

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Just another reason to loath religion, of course you know these people are the first to scream and cry persecution when ever anyone even hints at anything against religion.

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They should just stay out of it. Just like prohibition, the backtalk will continue with the outcome being whispers behind ones back. The govt. can't legislate morality. Everyone has their problems and issues. I had to grow up with mine as a kid and learned to handle things just fine.

 

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I have never understood why sex or relegion are even addressed in public schools. It is not the schools concern what type of sex, or even if a student is having sex. Who cares if someone is gay, straight, screws chickens whatever. Who cares if they worship god, allah or satan.  Their job is to teach, not dictate morals, relegion, sexual conduct or social etiquette  What does any of that have to do with algebra or literature. If students are disruptive call the cops and let the families deal with it AS THEY SHOULD

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I have never understood why sex or relegion are even addressed in public schools. It is not the schools concern what type of sex, or even if a student is having sex. Who cares if someone is gay, straight, screws chickens whatever. Who cares if they worship god, allah or satan.  Their job is to teach, not dictate morals, relegion, sexual conduct or social etiquette  What does any of that have to do with algebra or literature. If students are disruptive call the cops and let the families deal with it AS THEY SHOULD

Welcome to the primary cause of the downfall of Public Education, no longer does it teach the fundamentals.  It's primary function these days is that of Social Engineering and molding a Society of Corporate Slaves and Mercenaries.  You know ones who accept duty without question and allegiance to the New World Order, Thank You Jimmy Carter for creating the National Board of Education Puke

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Well, schools are to teach, and one thing they have to teach is "This is a public school and you're all in it together. You have the right to be safe and secure at school, and that means not harassing people for any reason.". Cause God knows that his followers are doing a bang-up job of loving thy neighbor.

I once said to a homophobe who kept citing the Bible "For Christ's sake shut up!", and I think that's one of the truest statements I've made. When they die and go to Heaven, they're gonna answer to God who is gonna say "What's this about you giving me a bad name by not loving thy neighbor?" XD

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Well there's the age old issue, Bully's.  It goes on in School and it continues on throughout life, you'll never get rid of it for it is human nature.  Address the problem and punish those that are the Bully's and kids need to know how to deal with them.

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You have to bully the bully to get that message across. Most of them go home crying after being challenged.

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Yup, my old high-school had a strict policy on bullying. If you bullied someone and it could be proven, your victim could easily ask for them to be expelled on the spot. No saving throw.

Of course, it had to be pretty severe bullying, like racial slurs, assault, theft, basically anything that could land you in jail in Scotland.

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I have never understood why sex or relegion are even addressed in public schools. It is not the schools concern what type of sex, or even if a student is having sex. Who cares if someone is gay, straight, screws chickens whatever. Who cares if they worship god, allah or satan.  Their job is to teach, not dictate morals, relegion, sexual conduct or social etiquette  What does any of that have to do with algebra or literature. If students are disruptive call the cops and let the families deal with it AS THEY SHOULD


It is what is called "social engineering" this is what public education has evolved into. The academic standings internationally speak for themselves!

Why are we not suprised at this, as I see it the system should focus on the basics like reading, writing, math, history, literature, etc. and stay the fuck out of interpersonal relations. Do that efficiently and then we can discuss additional curriculum!

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I am going to homeschool my little one, public school is a pressure-cooker of indoctrination and I'm done with it for now.

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I am going to homeschool my little one, public school is a pressure-cooker of indoctrination and I'm done with it for now.

And you should recieve money back on the tax's you pay for the Education system.

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I am going to homeschool my little one, public school is a pressure-cooker of indoctrination and I'm done with it for now.

And you should recieve money back on the tax's you pay for the Education system.

That's a toughie for me - smacks of 'pay to play'... It's like folks who have no children getting to opt out of paying for their local school - as of right now, I don't think it should work that way, but they can always vote down levies and bonds, right? 

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This is a sad thing for education, evolving to social engineering and New World Order indoctrinitation but it also boils down to their parents.

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"They’re suing on the basis of religious freedom"

 

People are retarded. I thought it was all "hate the sin, not the sinner"? The school isn't forcing them to accept homosexuality as morally acceptable, just to treat everyone with some damned respect... you know, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"...

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They should just stay out of it. Just like prohibition, the backtalk will continue with the outcome being whispers behind ones back. The govt. can't legislate morality. Everyone has their problems and issues. I had to grow up with mine as a kid and learned to handle things just fine.

 

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I have no issue with setting standards of social behavior at school - teaching tolerance of differences is one thing but if they are in fact focusing on and using gay lifestyle as the examples then the program needs to be reviewed and written in more generic terms so as to include all peoples.

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I have no issue with setting standards of social behavior at school - teaching tolerance of differences is one thing but if they are in fact focusing on and using gay lifestyle as the examples then the program needs to be reviewed and written in more generic terms so as to include all peoples.

I totally agree, everything needs to be nutural across the board, anything else would be a violation of the 14th Amendment.  You know like the so called "Hate Crimes" legislation which is such a total blatant violation of the 14th, why doesn't anyone call them on this shit?

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The bullies should be shown being beaten to a pulp by a crowd of "normal" people!  ;)   I get to establish what normal is.

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"They’re suing on the basis of religious freedom"

 

People are retarded. I thought it was all "hate the sin, not the sinner"? The school isn't forcing them to accept homosexuality as morally acceptable, just to treat everyone with some damned respect... you know, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"...

 

Hate the sin, not the sinner is SUPPOSE to be IT.  Unfortunately people seem to think they need to take on what God should--if they believe in the power of God, that is.  This is what bothers me when Christian bashing happens.  I am a Christ-follower, but I am out there to make Him look good, not like the over zealous who twist the word.  I have family members that are gay.  Would I not have my children be around them?  Oh hell no!  I love them with all my heart and see them often!  They have their path to lead as do I.

 

So does this mean I have a problem with the curriculum about the gay penguins who adopt?  Yes, in fact I do.  Why are they teaching gay curriculum?  Why not simply be inclusive that "we all belong" (taking the phrase that our local elementary school uses), that bullying is not ok.  there are assholes all over in life.  Learning to deal with them and getting down what to do is the key.  Everyone's feelings will be hurt in their lifetime.  Deal, move on and surround yourself with people who understand and love you anyway.

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So does this mean I have a problem with the curriculum about the gay penguins who adopt?  Yes, in fact I do.  Why are they teaching gay curriculum?  Why not simply be inclusive that "we all belong" (taking the phrase that our local elementary school uses), that bullying is not ok.  there are assholes all over in life.  Learning to deal with them and getting down what to do is the key.  Everyone's feelings will be hurt in their lifetime.  Deal, move on and surround yourself with people who understand and love you anyway.

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The zealots from both sides have been using the Public School system as their battle ground for years/decades.  Social Engineering must be yanked out of the Public School system period, I don't give a shit what one's postition is, Social Engineering belongs in the home period.

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President Obama's "safe schools czar" is a former schoolteacher who has advocated promoting homosexuality in schools, written about his past drug abuse, expressed his contempt for religion and detailed an incident in which he did not report an underage student who told him he was having sex with older men.

Conservatives are up in arms about the appointment of Kevin Jennings, Obama's director of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools, saying he is too radical for the job.

Jennings was appointed to the position largely because of his longtime record of working to end bullying and discrimination in schools. In 1990, as a teacher in Massachusetts, he founded the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), which now has over 40 chapters at schools nationwide. He has also published six books on gay rights and education, including one that describes his own experiences as a closeted gay student.

The OSDFS was created by the Bush administration in 2002. According to its Web site, one of its primary functions is to "provide financial assistance for drug and violence prevention activities and activities that promote the health and well being of students in elementary and secondary schools, and institutions of higher education."

Jennings' critics say he fits only half the bill, if that.

"Jennings was obviously chosen for this job because of the safe schools aspect... defining 'safe schools' narrowly in terms of 'safe for homosexuality'," Peter Sprigg, a senior fellow at the Family Research Council, told FOXNews.com.

"But at least half of the job involves creating drug-free schools, and we've not been offered any evidence about what qualifications Jennings has for promoting drug-free schools."

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For anyone who doesn't think there is a social engineering agenda going on, they are asleep.  Not reporting an incident with a school-aged student and an adult male is big when as a teacher you are required to do so.

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For anyone who doesn't think there is a social engineering agenda going on, they are asleep.  Not reporting an incident with a school-aged student and an adult male is big when as a teacher you are required to do so.

Forget being required - it's the right thing to do.

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Not to mention that it's the law in a lot of states, too. I wanna know why he didn't report it, when he should've. Then again, if the student was 17 or something, that I can overlook.

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Not to mention that it's the law in a lot of states, too. I wanna know why he didn't report it, when he should've. Then again, if the student was 17 or something, that I can overlook.

 

It can't be overlooked.  When the student is no longer a student it can be ignored.  When a teacher is in a position of power, it is required to be reported in every state regardless of age.

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He's just another lacky activist appointed to push the agenda of the current ruling administration.  I don't give a shit what side someone butters their bread, that is unless they are pushing what ever agenda.  Schools must remain neutral period, just teach reading, writing, the sciences and yes the arts also.  This bullshit of Social Engineering must stop now, look at the pathetic state of our public education which has taken a dive ever since Carter created the National Board of Education.  Big Brother got it's evil mitts into it and look what it has done, created a factory to produce uneducated corporate Drones and Mercenaries for the Puppet Masters.

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I have no problem with religion, the only problem I have is when people put religion ahead of common sense. These people are just so idiotic that they think they have a right to torment these kids. I am sure these parents would be mad if LGBT parents were sueing to prevent their kids from bullying the chrisitans.

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I have noticed that some well known schools are not taking LGBT or even some parents do not allow their children to be nice with the LGBT kids. I find this kind of exploitation as the worst humanity.

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"So does this mean I have a problem with the curriculum about the gay penguins who adopt?  Yes, in fact I do.  Why are they teaching gay curriculum?  Why not simply be inclusive that "we all belong" (taking the phrase that our local elementary school uses), that bullying is not ok.  there are assholes all over in life.  Learning to deal with them and getting down what to do is the key.  Everyone's feelings will be hurt in their lifetime.  Deal, move on and surround yourself with people who understand and love you "

 

Uh they teach that in schools now? If it's to push the idea that being gay is morally right, then no I don't agree with it - we shouldn't be forcing any set of morals on anyone. Schools should be teaching equal respect to all and a discussion on homosexuality doesn't even need to be involved...

But do you really have a problem with um... the gay penguins being taught, period? Why? It's just a fact. Just like discussing how a male/female would normally raise them. It's interesting.

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"So does this mean I have a problem with the curriculum about the gay penguins who adopt?  Yes, in fact I do.  Why are they teaching gay curriculum?  Why not simply be inclusive that "we all belong" (taking the phrase that our local elementary school uses), that bullying is not ok.  there are assholes all over in life.  Learning to deal with them and getting down what to do is the key.  Everyone's feelings will be hurt in their lifetime.  Deal, move on and surround yourself with people who understand and love you "

 

Uh they teach that in schools now? If it's to push the idea that being gay is morally right, then no I don't agree with it - we shouldn't be forcing any set of morals on anyone. Schools should be teaching equal respect to all and a discussion on homosexuality doesn't even need to be involved...

But do you really have a problem with um... the gay penguins being taught, period? Why? It's just a fact. Just like discussing how a male/female would normally raise them. It's interesting.

 

Dude, you've lost me.  Did you follow the board meetings in California over the fictional story book about two gay penguins who adopted?  It was voted to be a part of the gay curriculum regarding the lifestyle.

I am not sure what is wrong with simply teaching the basics: Math, history, language, etc.

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Public education in its current iteration is a failure.  Its most recent illness can be traced back to Jimmy Carter.  I say shut it down and let private industry meet the demand for education and training.  From what I have read and witnessed the private and charter schools seem to be turning out superior products. 

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Public education in its current iteration is a failure.  Its most recent illness can be traced back to Jimmy Carter.  I say shut it down and let private industry meet the demand for education and training.  From what I have read and witnessed the private and charter schools seem to be turning out superior products. 

Nah, don't need to do anything that drastic.  All that needs to be done is to do away with Carter's "National Board of Education" and turn it back over the the States where it belongs.

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