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Now that george bush has received criticism for his handling of Katrina, I think it's high time the media crack down on obama, who has failed miserably by going to political fundraisers, played golf, and chowed down instead of taking the lead here.

 

Now that the damage is down, I'll publicly state that he's done worse than bush here. In fact, he's made bush look like an amateur again. WHY couldn't that plug had been thought of the first week, instead of waiting until week 5 or 6? This is bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. Where WAS obama?

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The issue I take with your position is that I don't believe Bush deserved the criticism over Katrina and I don't believe Obama should be criticized over this. It's just not the place of the federal government to handle either one of these disasters. The responsibility for the current oil disaster is on BP. (or the company doing the drilling, or the company that manufactured the cut off valve depending on who you ask.) The federal government is ill equipped to handle this disaster. They have neither equipment nor the man power to deal with this leak. They can only suggest that BP do what they should. Furthermore if the feds do (and they are) get involved in it, it's just a further handouts to a big corporations.

Attempting to blame Bush or blame Obama is purely political and only serves give them a good reason to increase bureaucracy spend lots more money.

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Not really. If the corps dilly-dally, as BP did, it meant they would lose the yield from the well by plugging it up. They should have done that in the first place rather than exhaust every option NOT to do so.

 

And, if you don't think regulation is needed after a spill like that, you're brain damaged. That, is government involvement where it is needed. Companies do not have the right to go around polluting without worry of repercussion, even if the problem becomes larger than they are.

 

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So let me understand your point of view here.

The government dropped the ball but you want them to be more involved in the process.

So tell me, how much oil would be in the Gulf if the government hadn't regulated the oil companies into the ocean instead of on the ground?

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Huh??? That's apples and oranges.

 

obama has the entire Army Engineering Corps at his disposal. He could have used them at any time.

 

As for the government dropping the ball, that wasn't under obama as far as regulations are concerned. But, obama just sat by like a deer in headlights when this "leader" of the greatest nation on earth was witnessing the worst environmental disaster in history. This is just beginning. If they had plugged that tube to begin with, it would have been much better. What took them so long? Because they didn't know? Fuck that. You'll never know until you try. Try explaining that to those down there that depend on the Gulf for employment, willya?

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okay fine I'll play your political game.

Where the hell was he? I mean he's been seen playing golf, basketball, and 1 month after the blowout holds a lavish gala state dinner with 3 different kinds of wine. It was NINE DAYS before he even made any kind of announcement to the public. He has sure had time to go to big campaign dinners for Barbara Boxer. This just proves what was stated during the campaign. He is inexperienced and clueless. More interested in "being President" ,which he is so fond of telling us, than he is in DOING THE JOB OF PRESIDENT.

Fuck an A, this SOB, should've had scuba gear on down there with some hookum and hemp patching up this thing. How hard could it be to get a hose on this thing and put the other end in a tanker and just haul it to the nearest refinery?

He can't even approve a permit (or exemption for said permit) for the governor to do what he needs to do.

Or maybe his slow reaction is because he is the single largest campaign money recipient from BP Oil.Think that had anything to do with it??? Nah.

Then  Birbaum resigns today. Can you say Brownie? Questions are being asked....was she a campaign worker that received a favor? I don't think she really looks qualified.

Speaking of political tomfoolery, have you heard about Sestak? Maybe ole BO is sly like a fox, taking the oil leak heat while diverting attention from a issue that could cost him his free lavish dinner ticket. Where is the Plame / Novak crowd to make sure they get to the bottom of this one?

and when Carville starts raising hell at a Democrat, you know there's a problem.

 

But honestly, the real question I have..............

 

Is what the hell did he do for NASHVILLE,TN?

 

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B-I-N-G-O

 

just like the little bush. They're all about the money.

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The Party Hacks like Curtis are just going to make excuses for their Lord and Savior just like the Party Hacks like that skank Chard made excuses for 'Dubya.

Anyway my two bits -

FEMA and the Fed under 'Dubya's watch was a big cluster fuck and 'Dubya deserves every single bit of blame and criticism he got for that.

Obama, this is worse than Katrina.  Obama was bought and paid for by the industry which shows by his handling of the entire mess. 

As soon as the leak started he should have been all over it.  Then within a couple of days of the Circle Jerk by BP he should have pulled the trigger on getting all the other resources out there to plug it and clean it up.

BP MUST be held accountable for this and clean it up NOW, it'll probably bankrupt them but fuck them.  Bottom line is it's THEIR responsibility to stop it and clean it up NOW!

On a side note, rather interesting how right at the same time of "Earth Day" and the off shore drilling bans this happens and Obama does NOTHING ......  mmmmmm makes one wonder ya know?

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BP should be held responsible that is essentially my point in the first post. I am so sick and tired of of everything that happens people look to FEDS to do something. Then you and I foot the bill (+ interest paid to China so they can become bigger) for it. IMO Nashville, TN was a perfect example of how things should be handled. the people in Nashville took care of the situation. AND certainly this situation should be handled by BP without you or I having to spend a dime on it. That's not how it will work. We will foot the bill they will file bankruptcy, reorganize and be scott free.

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Thing is they WON'T be held fully accountable, for they're one of those pulling the strings in government.  Why else do you think the Obama administration hasn't done shit about kicking them in the ass

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That's where the government SHOULD come in. They need to represent the people here that got damaged, and that's all of us. They need to put the screws to BP, a company, which will do everything in their power to not be held accountable.

 

Then, there's boan, who thinks BP will be held accountable, without having any authority that will hold them accountable.

 

This is way beyond the "shit happens" stage.

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Here is an article that contributes to your views MF.

Essentially an I told you so from the critics of Obama during the campaign.

 

 

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