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Malkin: Extending unemployment benefits creates joblessness
By David Edwards & Daniel Tencer - Raw Story | Aug 02, 09

Extending unemployment benefits will encourage people not to look for work, says Michelle Malkin.

The writer and columnist told a roundtable panel on ABC’s This Week that “there are a lot of these smart economists who say that if you keep extending these temporary unemployment benefits, you’re just going to extend joblessness even more.”

The total number of jobs in the United States continues to decrease. A report in the New York Times states that as many as 1.5 million Americans will lose their unemployment benefits in the coming months.

But Malkin says that if US unemployment benefits — already extended to 79 weeks — were extended another 13 weeks, as is being proposed, it would mean only that people would re-enter the workforce later.

“What happens is … people will just delay getting a job until three weeks before the [benefits] run out,” she said.

“If you put enough government cheese in front of people, they’re just going to keep eating it and you’re just kicking the can down the road,” Malkin said.

She ran into some opposition from ABC’s reporters at the table, who disagreed with the notion that only laziness is preventing people from finding work. Host George Stephanopoulos wondered what kind of reasoning would be needed to “choose unemployment benefits when a job is available.”

“There are very few jobs available at the moment, so I don’t think people are just using that unemployment to be lazy,” said ABC’s Cynthia Tucker.

“When businesses advertise the few jobs openings they have, they’ll advertise 20 openings, they’ll have 6,000 applicants.”

Malkin also took one on the chin from Bill Maher on Friday night. On his HBO show Real Time, Maher brought out a copy of Malkin’s new book, Culture of Corruption, about the first six months of the Obama administration.

“Six months in office and already we can make this judgment?” he asked, to audience laughter. (The Video)

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What a total clueless SKANK!  Say you dumb bitch a company announces a job opening and their are people lined up around the block hoping to get a minimum wage job should give you a fucking clue.  Also you ignorant slut unemployment is a fraction of what you were earning!  I tell you what during the .com bomb I worked 6 months in three years, I didn't sit on my ass, I busted my fucking ass off looking for work.  So someone who used to make six figures is going to sit on their ass because they now get $3-$400 a week?

God the cluelessness of these talking heads like this bitch who is only Parroting what she is told is truely amazing!  One Finger Salute!

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Here you ignorant fucking bitch, I guess this picture of people waiting in line to apply is because they're lazy and enjoy the fortune they get on unemployment eh?  Jerk Off

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Are those green cards at the front of the line?
I suspect the 1.5 million that will be losing benefits are then counted as statistical proof that the recovery is in full swing!
I too drew benefits as a result of the dot com failure - I in fact drew the max amount for the full duration of allowed time. About a third of the way through it I stopped looking for work and made a personal commitment to never work for a company other than my own - I never looked back after that.
Now as far as her call on the corruption and failures of Obama - well no argument from me there.

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I suspect the 1.5 million that will be losing benefits are then counted as statistical proof that the recovery is in full swing!

 

Yup they are, I saw a report about a month ago on one of the talkin heads nightime propaganda shows and the DOL said that once a person goes from the state roles to the federal emergency funds they are no longer counted as unemployed, they fall off the radar. AND this indiviual stated (this was about three weeks ago) that this would make the numbers look good but the reality is they are not, there would be quite a few people in no mans land. It also does not consider those that have found part time work in the counts.  The same thing happened in 2001.

I thought I was going to puke when Greenspan graced us with his opinion that we were at the bottom, or so it would seem. Sure nice positive thoughts so the have's will start to shell out some money for the third and fourth quarters.

 

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One-sided comments such as this are totally unfair to those with homes and families to support and pay for.

 

THIS is what I mean when I use the term absolutism. There are always two sides to any story.

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I don't know... buy the way phil talked about his unemployment a couple of months ago, it makes me wonder.  but that could just be a "special case" Smiling

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In reality, both happens. I've been on unemployment for quite some time now, but that is due to my legal issues with the state of Washington and the situation they have put me into. I place the blame on them for what they have done to my life in general.

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In reality, both happens. I've been on unemployment for quite some time now, but that is due to my legal issues with the state of Washington and the situation they have put me into. I place the blame on them for what they have done to my life in general.


Okay I simply can't resist the temptation here!

So let me get this correct - you are on unemployment because of Washington state and that you have no culpability in that process? Did your employer fire you or did Washington in some way determine your job loss or did you voluntarily quit and get out of town?

Isn't that an absolutist position or attitude?

It is not that I don't understand and even empathize with you, but as a player you too have some responsibility to assume in the matter.

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In reality, both happens. I've been on unemployment for quite some time now, but that is due to my legal issues with the state of Washington and the situation they have put me into. I place the blame on them for what they have done to my life in general.


Okay I simply can't resist the temptation here!

So let me get this correct - you are on unemployment because of Washington state and that you have no culpability in that process? Did your employer fire you or did Washington in some way determine your job loss or did you voluntarily quit and get out of town?

Isn't that an absolutist position or attitude?

It is not that I don't understand and even empathize with you, but as a player you too have some responsibility to assume in the matter.

Actually they do, due to the B.S. that has to go through HR companies find a reason to get rid of you.  This is why so called Union Job security is such a joke, if they want to get rid of you they will find a way.  If they are bigots they find some other excuse not to hire you, it's a game and the reality of this escapes the "Herd" who actually believe laws and Union contracts actually protect their jobs.

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My company actually went to bat for me. One of the other reasons I moved back home was to help with the passing of my father. They (my company) backed me up on this and this was used as the reasoning to apply for and eventually receive unemployment. The reason I can't get a job is my background check.

 

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No I understand all that which has transpired. But you just like me at some point have to accept that our decisions also are part of the equation. As you said in an other post it is not one sided or absolutist in nature!
It takes two to dance (well it used to). I to have a blemish on my record from dealing with the one sided orientation of DSHS. But then it was my decision to tell them to fuck off that resulted in my felony! I can have it expunged but it is my decision to let it ride based on my personal principle.

I also understand the impact of not doing so has on potential employment opportunities. I simply have chosen not to work for any company that if interested in my services wouldn't care t take the time to inquire. It is a matter of choice I elect to live with. Then of course I have been better off by becoming self-employed. When I ran the plumbing company I was often asked about the company drug policy. I responded if you don't do drugs or drink alcohol you wouldn't fit in, but if I catch you coming to work stoned or drunk you will be fired! There is a time and place for everything.
I made the mistake of hiring a really good plumber who was as pure as the driven snow. Unfortunately nobody would work with him because he would lecture them when they said fuck or cussed, then go into his litany of reciting scriptures. It was disruptive to business - he was sent packing with a wonderful recommendation to the competition! That is when I instituted our "drug policy".

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I too, understand my part in this. My personal feeling is that I have more than met my responsibilities as far as the law is concerned. I accept and actually embrace my decision to fight the system. It has so far resulted in my former instructor being placed onder review by the DOH. It has also resulted in the top level offficial of the DSHS DV programs being fired. Now, the guy who wrote the statutes has been placed under review, also by the DOH. I am now in a strong position to come back and challenge the courts in my case and plan to do so later on this year when a few more pieces of this puzzle fall into place.

 

You know my mistakes. The worst was taking that bitch back into my life when I didn't have to. I was a believer in commitment as well as having a weak part in my soul for "understanding" her stories, and worse yet, trusting her BS. Trust me. That will NEVER happen again. In fact, I doubt of I'll ever be in any relationship ever again after what has happened to me.

 

This has made me stronger as a person as much as it has weakened my ability to prosper in this crazy system of ours. That will soon change as I am not done fighting this. I have made great progress over the past three years and greatly appreciate the support that I have received throughout all of this.

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Mulkin is so damn ignorant, I'm amazed that anyone listens let alone buy's her books.  This comment she had about the unemployed shows it, yeah I going from $2k a week to $500 a week with zero health, Dental, etc. benefits is sure appealing, isn't it?

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Yup. People like this who talk as if they know better should be forced to walk a mile in their shoes before talking first. She's a cunt.

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I too, understand my part in this. My personal feeling is that I have more than met my responsibilities as far as the law is concerned. I accept and actually embrace my decision to fight the system. It has so far resulted in my former instructor being placed onder review by the DOH. It has also resulted in the top level offficial of the DSHS DV programs being fired. Now, the guy who wrote the statutes has been placed under review, also by the DOH. I am now in a strong position to come back and challenge the courts in my case and plan to do so later on this year when a few more pieces of this puzzle fall into place.

 

You know my mistakes. The worst was taking that bitch back into my life when I didn't have to. I was a believer in commitment as well as having a weak part in my soul for "understanding" her stories, and worse yet, trusting her BS. Trust me. That will NEVER happen again. In fact, I doubt of I'll ever be in any relationship ever again after what has happened to me.

 

This has made me stronger as a person as much as it has weakened my ability to prosper in this crazy system of ours. That will soon change as I am not done fighting this. I have made great progress over the past three years and greatly appreciate the support that I have received throughout all of this.


I am with you and behind you on that. I hope you are in fact at some point in time able to clear your name and record if that is what you want.
Healing begins with the individual first, without that little hope can be expected.
Don't let your past relationship prevent you from recognizing a winner if she comes a knocking at the door. Remain skeptical and suspicious as that is healthy but don't concede her the win by shutting out someone of character and potential companionship. In the mean time do as I do and role with the four F's - find'em, feel'em, fuck'em, forget'em!

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Mulkin is so damn ignorant, I'm amazed that anyone listens let alone buy's her books.  This comment she had about the unemployed shows it, yeah I going from $2k a week to $500 a week with zero health, Dental, etc. benefits is sure appealing, isn't it?

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She may not be as far off as you think. I remembered this thread this weekend. I talked to 6 people in casual conversation that are out of work. Half of those aren't looking for work and openly are sitting on their rumps doing nothing. 1 of those 3 is taking jobs "under the table" "every once in a while". It really ticks me off. This may or may not be the norm but unemployment certainly does enable people to avoid looking for a job.

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Mulkin is so damn ignorant, I'm amazed that anyone listens let alone buy's her books.  This comment she had about the unemployed shows it, yeah I going from $2k a week to $500 a week with zero health, Dental, etc. benefits is sure appealing, isn't it?

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She may not be as far off as you think. I remembered this thread this weekend. I talked to 6 people in casual conversation that are out of work. Half of those aren't looking for work and openly are sitting on their rumps doing nothing. 1 of those 3 is taking jobs "under the table" "every once in a while". It really ticks me off. This may or may not be the norm but unemployment certainly does enable people to avoid looking for a job.

Aaah there is a requirement to apply for jobs while one is drawing unemployment you know.  And if you haven't noticed the "published" national unemployment rate is over 10% not to mention places like Detroit are 30%.  Have you been keeping up on current events like the job losses occurring every month?  Jerk Off

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Mulkin is so damn ignorant, I'm amazed that anyone listens let alone buy's her books.  This comment she had about the unemployed shows it, yeah I going from $2k a week to $500 a week with zero health, Dental, etc. benefits is sure appealing, isn't it?

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She may not be as far off as you think. I remembered this thread this weekend. I talked to 6 people in casual conversation that are out of work. Half of those aren't looking for work and openly are sitting on their rumps doing nothing. 1 of those 3 is taking jobs "under the table" "every once in a while". It really ticks me off. This may or may not be the norm but unemployment certainly does enable people to avoid looking for a job.

Aaah there is a requirement to apply for jobs while one is drawing unemployment you know.  And if you haven't noticed the "published" national unemployment rate is over 10% not to mention places like Detroit are 30%.  Have you been keeping up on current events like the job losses occurring every month?  Jerk Off

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the "requirement" that people apply for jobs is bull shit. Especially with the current unemployment rate. I know in this state a person has to make 3 "good faith efforts" to to get a job a week. Nobody I know ever does it. they pencil in a couple companies they called and that's the end of it. the high unemployment rate is contributing to people's rationalization of not getting a job.. One of the people is in financial services and his attitude is basically "There is nothing out there so I am not going to even try". Until they quit extending his unemployment that is. Another person called in to the radio and was explaining that he worked long hours before being fired and was taking this time to spend with his children.

It is tough to get a job right now, but people still shouldn't use it as an excuse to take a vacation on the tax payers.

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Mulkin is so damn ignorant, I'm amazed that anyone listens let alone buy's her books.  This comment she had about the unemployed shows it, yeah I going from $2k a week to $500 a week with zero health, Dental, etc. benefits is sure appealing, isn't it?

Stop Drinking the Koolaid

She may not be as far off as you think. I remembered this thread this weekend. I talked to 6 people in casual conversation that are out of work. Half of those aren't looking for work and openly are sitting on their rumps doing nothing. 1 of those 3 is taking jobs "under the table" "every once in a while". It really ticks me off. This may or may not be the norm but unemployment certainly does enable people to avoid looking for a job.

Aaah there is a requirement to apply for jobs while one is drawing unemployment you know.  And if you haven't noticed the "published" national unemployment rate is over 10% not to mention places like Detroit are 30%.  Have you been keeping up on current events like the job losses occurring every month?  Jerk Off

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the "requirement" that people apply for jobs is bull shit. Especially with the current unemployment rate. I know in this state a person has to make 3 "good faith efforts" to to get a job a week. Nobody I know ever does it. they pencil in a couple companies they called and that's the end of it. the high unemployment rate is contributing to people's rationalization of not getting a job.. One of the people is in financial services and his attitude is basically "There is nothing out there so I am not going to even try". Until they quit extending his unemployment that is. Another person called in to the radio and was explaining that he worked long hours before being fired and was taking this time to spend with his children.

It is tough to get a job right now, but people still shouldn't use it as an excuse to take a vacation on the tax payers.

Peoples apathy to finding jobs couldn't be due to things like.... mmmmm let's see -

http://mam.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fid=438306&cust=fidelity#top

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/layoffs-list-job-losses-2008-and-2009-ongoing

2008 was the worst year for layoffs and job losses in the United States since World War II and 2009 is expected to be even more devastating. A report out today says that 1.9 million jobs were lost in the last four months of 2008, 2.6 million for the year, and the layoff list continues to grow on a daily basis.

Yep, jobs are a plenty aren't they?  Company's aren't laying off by the 10's of thousands are they?

Serously Boaner, you need to stop dinking the koolaid or at least learn some basic math Jerk Off

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Yep, jobs are a plenty aren't they?  Company's aren't laying off by the 10's of thousands are they?

Serously Boaner, you need to stop dinking the koolaid or at least learn some basic math Jerk Off

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Who is dinking koolaid? I am relaying my personal experiences. Are you now going to tell me I didn't have these conversations with people this past week?

Feeling god Like much?

 

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Yep, jobs are a plenty aren't they?  Company's aren't laying off by the 10's of thousands are they?

Serously Boaner, you need to stop dinking the koolaid or at least learn some basic math Jerk Off

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Who is dinking koolaid? I am relaying my personal experiences. Are you now going to tell me I didn't have these conversations with people this past week?

Feeling god Like much?

I'm just saying you're full of shit and the reality of the state of affairs in the U.S. backs that up.

As for being "god like", I'm not the one saying that those who are out of work are lazy and don't want to work am I?

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Yep, jobs are a plenty aren't they?  Company's aren't laying off by the 10's of thousands are they?

Serously Boaner, you need to stop dinking the koolaid or at least learn some basic math Jerk Off

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Who is dinking koolaid? I am relaying my personal experiences. Are you now going to tell me I didn't have these conversations with people this past week?

Feeling god Like much?

I'm just saying you're full of shit and the reality of the state of affairs in the U.S. backs that up.

As for being "god like", I'm not the one saying that those who are out of work are lazy and don't want to work am I?

Stop Drinking the Koolaid

Actually I said that in my personal experience 50% of the people who are out of work aren't in a hurry to go back because they are surviving off their unemployment check. If you seriously don't think this happens to some extent you are going through life with blinders on my friend.

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boan. How should people act after losing their job? Does coming up for air even enter into your thought process? They pay into their unemployment fund, don't they? Who the fuck are you to say what they should do? I can see chronic cases, but this incessant ragging of yours of the unemployed being undeserved recipient's of what they've paid into really highlights the ignorant side of your thoughts.

 

Losing a job that one has worked at for over twenty years can be like a sucker punch to the gut. It takes time. You seem to expect people to change on a dime and start digging ditches if they have to. But the sad part is that even those jobs are down. These heartless, gutless posts of yours make me sick.

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boan. How should people act after losing their job? Does coming up for air even enter into your thought process? They pay into their unemployment fund, don't they? Who the fuck are you to say what they should do? I can see chronic cases, but this incessant ragging of yours of the unemployed being undeserved recipient's of what they've paid into really highlights the ignorant side of your thoughts.

 

Losing a job that one has worked at for over twenty years can be like a sucker punch to the gut. It takes time. You seem to expect people to change on a dime and start digging ditches if they have to. But the sad part is that even those jobs are down. These heartless, gutless posts of yours make me sick.


Really? earlier in the thread you agreed with my point of view....go figure.

 

In reality, both happens.

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boan. How should people act after losing their job? Does coming up for air even enter into your thought process? They pay into their unemployment fund, don't they? Who the fuck are you to say what they should do? I can see chronic cases, but this incessant ragging of yours of the unemployed being undeserved recipient's of what they've paid into really highlights the ignorant side of your thoughts.

 

Losing a job that one has worked at for over twenty years can be like a sucker punch to the gut. It takes time. You seem to expect people to change on a dime and start digging ditches if they have to. But the sad part is that even those jobs are down. These heartless, gutless posts of yours make me sick.

Yep, you nailed it.  When I lost my job during the .com bomb I took a breather for about two months, why?  Well call me a lazy bastard but after a few years of being on the road all but 3-4 days out of the month with 80+ hours a week worked I needed a breather, but I still looked for work as required for unemployment.

But for someone to imply that surviving on less that a 1/4 of ones income is desirable, not to mention not devastating in their life as this Skank Malkin and others spew would be funny if it wasn't so fucking ignorant.  Nope, these people are just living in a fucking delusional world where they believe finding a job is simple and even with the country hemorrhaging jobs daily that everyone out of work are just lazy  Jerk Off

Stop Drinking the Koolaid

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Re: What an Ignorant SKANK!

I find all this rather interesting.  There is some merit to Malken's claim that the "free cash" does in fact for some (not all) remove an incentive to work.  Unfortunately there also is the reality that there are few jobs to apply as well.  For a person drawing a max unemployment they would have lost a fairly livable wage/job.  The prospect of flipping burgers to say you have a job and loss of "free cash" for minimum wage is not much of an incentive to pursue work.

In any welfare program you end up creating a new generation of willing recipients who see no value in actually working for the freebies.  Remove the food from the trough and all of a sudden priorities begin to shift towards self preservation (work/income). 

The long and short of it is that there are few decent jobs today and there is no sign of that improving in the short term.  So why not kick back, reduce cash out flow and enjoy the weekly check deposited to your account.  The world is turned upside down for many and their discouragement about the future prospects continue to deteriorate. 

We need some real leadership that works to restore the incentives to be productive.  Passing stimulus bills simply is not the answer - it doesn't produce the desired effects!  Most people want to be productive and able to bring home a paycheck then pursue their dreams of a good life.  GOVCO needs to get in touch with the common mans reality, the best way to accomplish that is to fire all those assholes and replace them with people who truly want to preserve our free markets and capitalism so people can become self sufficient once again!

 

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