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Politicians are Psychopaths/Sociopaths

Oh-oh! Politicians share personality traits with serial killers: Study
By Andrew Malcolm - LA Times | Jun 15, 09

Using his law enforcement experience and data drawn from the FBI's behavioral analysis unit, Jim Kouri has collected a series of personality traits common to a couple of professions.

American PsycoKouri, who's a vice president of the National Assn. of Chiefs of Police, has assembled traits such as superficial charm, an exaggerated sense of self-worth, glibness, lying, lack of remorse and manipulation of others.

These traits, Kouri points out in his analysis, are common to psychopathic serial killers.

But -- and here's the part that may spark some controversy and defensive discussion -- these traits are also common to American politicians. (Maybe you already suspected.)

Yup. Violent homicide aside, our elected officials often show many of the exact same character traits as criminal nut-jobs, who run from police but not for office.

Kouri notes that these criminals are psychologically capable of committing their dirty deeds free of any concern for social, moral or legal consequences and with absolutely no remorse.

"This allCapitol Hill Domeows them to do what they want, whenever they want," he wrote. "Ironically, these same traits exist in men and women who are drawn to high-profile and powerful positions in society including political officeholders."

Good grief! And we not only voted for these people, we're paying their salaries and entrusting them to spend our national treasure in wise ways.

We don't know Kouri that well. He may be trying to manipulate all of us with his glib provocative pronouncements. On the other hand ...

He adds:

"While many political leaders will deny the assessment regarding their similarities with serial killers and other career criminals, it is part of a psychopathic profile that may be used in assessing the behaviors of many officials and lawmakers at all levels of government."

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Well tell us something we didn't already know!

I do remember listening to a late night radio talk show while driving and hearing a Doctor discuss this a few years ago.  They also listed successful businessmen in the same light, seriously it does make sense.  They have no conscience, do what ever it takes and would sell out their own mothers, I'm not exaggerating either.

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I've seen a study like this before, except it was likening sex offenders with the policemen who got too big for their britches. You know, stomping down people who disobey them even slightly and not hesitating to taze just about anyone?

I forget where I found it, but it did bring up some valid points. Although, you could apply the traits of any archetype to just about any group of people, couldn't you? People have been doing that with Nostradamus for years. Sticking out tongue

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I agree, Aries. I'm very wary of ANYBODY that can sugar-coat cherry-picked info to suit their agenda. While I agree with the sentiment here, what does it say for the American public who votes the "sociopaths" into office?

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

I agree, Aries. I'm very wary of ANYBODY that can sugar-coat cherry-picked info to suit their agenda. While I agree with the sentiment here, what does it say for the American public who votes the "sociopaths" into office?

It says we are infantilised (on the whole) and looking for a leader, rather than a representative.  Charisma and cheek will go a long way in this country, we cheer for our heroes without concern for the crimes against humanity that put them in the spotlight.  I myself have waited for someone to solve my problems for me many times, for years.  My story isn't rare here in the U.S.  As I am waking up, my expectation that my representatives be as accountable as I am having to be in my life gets higher and higher.  Frankly, I no longer want to vote for anyone who wants to run for office, simply because I don't want to feed into their head-trip.  That's the rub.  So, I step up and get active and find myself faced with donning the same mask as any head of a movement (no matter how small).  The cult of personality is so ingrained in our society (probably others, too), that I fail to find a particle of righteousness in a political persona.  Yeah, yeah... the truth hurts, blah, blah, blah... I'm not stupid - never have been.  Intelligent people play into this bull, it serves some social need.  It demonstrates how absurd our socially-proscribed needs are, however.  

Bottom line is our society seeks to breed sheep, with the obvious dependencies on leadership, security, healthcare, and 'sustenance'.  Watch the BBC documentaries about it in Pagan's blog.  The fact that a person can stand up and truly say that they do not need someone to provide every little thing for them speaks to their freedom.  By those standards, do you feel free?  We talk a game here in the U.S., but the truth is precisely the opposite of the message every time.  Our politicians are simply the sheep who learned to repeat these messages most emphatically.  They are still sheep - still drink the Kool Aid, refusing to take the red pill (or is it the blue one? - does it matter?) and wake up to any form of pathetic reality.  We see the same faces up there on the hill, the same names, the same plastic hair and (for god's sake) teeth.  The plasticity requires dissociation - a severance of those parts of us that make us human: feelings, commonality, empathy, etc.  Same goes for the sociopaths that kill others of their kind, right?  An extreme objectification of the victims: pig, cunt, fag, peasant , liberal, neo-con... anything but 'human like me'.  Come to think of it, sociopathy seems pretty rampant in our whole society.  How is that possible?  Perhaps psychopathology is a better description for our nation.  Either way, we have a long road ahead if we want things to be different and there are generations of pent-up repressed anger between us and that happy place.  How we direct that anger will be pivotal toward shaping the future of this country and it could just be more of the same with band-aids for every split seam at the edge of society.  The more marginalised people get, the more stress on those fringes, the more likely the whole thing bursts.  I hope it happens in D.C. first and that the collateral damage is high - not because I am a psychopath, but because the truth will get out faster when our shining city on the hill (actually in a marsh - see?  the opposite is always true) implodes in front of the world. 

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Mysandrist Fool wrote:

I agree, Aries. I'm very wary of ANYBODY that can sugar-coat cherry-picked info to suit their agenda. While I agree with the sentiment here, what does it say for the American public who votes the "sociopaths" into office?

It says we are infantilised (on the whole) and looking for a leader, rather than a representative.  Charisma and cheek will go a long way in this country, we cheer for our heroes without concern for the crimes against humanity that put them in the spotlight.  I myself have waited for someone to solve my problems for me many times, for years.  My story isn't rare here in the U.S.  As I am waking up, my expectation that my representatives be as accountable as I am having to be in my life gets higher and higher.  Frankly, I no longer want to vote for anyone who wants to run for office, simply because I don't want to feed into their head-trip.  That's the rub.  So, I step up and get active and find myself faced with donning the same mask as any head of a movement (no matter how small).  The cult of personality is so ingrained in our society (probably others, too), that I fail to find a particle of righteousness in a political persona.  Yeah, yeah... the truth hurts, blah, blah, blah... I'm not stupid - never have been.  Intelligent people play into this bull, it serves some social need.  It demonstrates how absurd our socially-proscribed needs are, however.  

Bottom line is our society seeks to breed sheep, with the obvious dependencies on leadership, security, healthcare, and 'sustenance'.  Watch the BBC documentaries about it in Pagan's blog.  The fact that a person can stand up and truly say that they do not need someone to provide everything little thing for them speaks to their freedom.  By those standards, do you feel free?  We talk a game here in the U.S., but the truth is precisely the opposite of the message every time.  Our politicians are simply the sheep who learned to repeat these messages most emphatically.  They are still sheep - still drink the Kool Aid, refusing to take the red pill (or is it the blue one? - does it matter?) and wake up to any form of pathetic reality.  We see the same faces up there on the hill, the same names, the same plastic hair and (for god's sake) teeth.  The plasticity requires dissociation - a severance of those parts of us that make us human: feelings, commonality, empathy, etc.  Same goes for the sociopaths that kill others of their kind, right?  An extreme objectification of the victims: pig, cunt, fag, nigger, liberal, neo-con... anything but 'human like me'.  Come to think of it, sociopathy seems pretty rampant in our whole society.  How is that possible?  Perhaps psychopathology is a better description for our nation.  Either way, we have a long road ahead if we want things to be different and there are generations of pent-up repressed anger between us and that happy place.  How we direct that anger will be pivotal toward shaping the future of this country and it could just be more of the same with band-aids for every split seam at the edge of society.  The more marginalised people get, the more stress on those fringes, the more likely the whole thing bursts.  I hope it happens in D.C. first and that the collateral damage is high - not because I am a psychopath, but because the truth will get out faster when our shining city on the hill (actually in a marsh - see?  the opposite is always true) implodes in front of the world. 

Good summation Eye-wink

And it's about damn time you showed your ugly mug around here, we've been wondering what happened to your Raw Food Vegan ass ya know.  Howzit Brudda

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Will health care reform include coverage for therapy to assist in correcting psychopathic and sociopath behaviors? Will there be a co-pay option or annual limitations on the coverage?
More importantly will we have adequate supply of skilled therapists to service the demand?

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AstuteObserver wrote:
Will health care reform include coverage for therapy to assist in correcting psychopathic and sociopath behaviors? Will there be a co-pay option or annual limitations on the coverage? More importantly will we have adequate supply of skilled therapists to service the demand?

 

No need for that, the population is already medicated enough from the fluoride and prozac in the water supply. Besides most are to busy watching american idol to notice much less care