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"I can stand here with confidence and say that we have pulled this economy back from the brink. "


Really? When did that happen? If it is so, most likely it is a temporary situation.

The first article is from the Telegraph.co.uk which strangly I am finding more and more that it is the place to get accurate news about the US.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6190818/US-credit-shrinks-at-Great-Depression-rate-prompting-fears-of-double-dip-recession.html

I will not reprint the whole thing here

Similar concerns have been raised by David Rosenberg, chief strategist at Gluskin Sheff, who said that over the four weeks up to August 24, bank credit shrank at an "epic" 9pc annual pace, the M2 money supply shrank at 12.2pc and M1 shrank at 6.5pc.

 "For the first time in the post-WW2 [Second World War] era, we have deflation in credit, wages and rents and, from our lens, this is a toxic brew," he said.

 It is unclear why the US Federal Reserve has allowed this to occur.

 

Then they go on to state;

"The current drive to make banks less leveraged and safer is having the
perverse consequence of destroying money balances," he said. "It
strengthens the deflationary forces in the world economy. That increases the
risks of a double-dip recession in 2010."

 

The fed and congress have misregualted the banks and allowed then to be way over leveraged. They are attempting to correct this, as they should. However this causes deflation and China starts rasing hell when that happens because they own so much of our debt. So it put us in a tough situation.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e6dd31f0-a133-11de-a88d-00144feabdc0.html

In another article William White that predicted the subprime meltdown and got in Greenspan's face over it in 2003 predicts "double dip inflation" and prolonged stagnation.

The only thing that would really surprise me is a rapid and sustainable recovery from the position we’re in.

 

The article goes on to state:

 

Worldwide, central banks have pumped thousands of billions of dollars of new money into the financial system over the past two years in an effort to prevent a depression. Meanwhile, governments have gone to similar extremes, taking on vast sums of debt to prop up industries from banking to car making.

These measures may already be inflating a bubble in asset prices, from equities to commodities, he said, and there was a small risk that inflation would get out of control over the medium term if central banks miss-time their “exit strategies”.

 

Quite simply put, we can't keep on doing what caused the problem and expect those actions to solve the problem. We have a group of Ego maniac in our government that refuse to listen to people that are out of the status quo. We are in trouble folks.

 

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Nice post, Boan... Just goes to show you how far down the primrose path we can go before we're stuck in the brambles.  

Aware folks seem to say what you said - "We are in trouble, folks." long before the consequences get so far out of hand, there is no hope of salvage and reformation.  Unaware folks say, "Huh?  Oh - please deal with this for me," and that's just carte blanche for the architects of disaster to continue filling the lifeboats with wealth and leave the sinking ship.  How ridiculous we all look standing on the decks screaming, "I said DEAL with this for ME!", lacking wealth and now lifeboats, down we go.  Think anyone in Congress is without a lifeboat these days?  They should be the first to tread water. 

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All I can say is buy gold and guns!

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Gold isn't going to be worth anything if you can't heat your house with it or run your generator...

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Fremen wrote:

Gold isn't going to be worth anything if you can't heat your house with it or run your generator...

It will be convertable to needed goods though - my house can be heated with wood rather nicely and I can always barter it for foods that I don't produce on my own.  An oz of gold will always have value unlike the paper fiat currency currently in circulation.  Laugh all you want as you count your paper money, but make sure you have bundles of it to burn for heating your home with!

Then of course if I run out of gold I will have my guns to acquire what I may need.  As a last resort I will simply rely on my innate charm and genes of survival to make it through the day! Eye-wink

As we used to say "peace but fuck you anyway"! Rolling on the floor laughing

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I'd put more faith in your charm and genes than in your gold and guns... just a suggestion.  What would Jesus do? Rolling on the floor laughing

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I'd put more faith in your charm and genes than in your gold and guns... just a suggestion.  What would Jesus do? Rolling on the floor laughing

No I will burn through the consumables first then rely on that infinite supply of charm I have been hoarding! Eye-wink

As for Jesus - if you are addressing the fellow who mows my lawn or the biblical character I suspect both would employ their ability to deal with bodies of water either by swimming or walking to cross over to the other side where frog legs and asparagus abound! Eye-wink

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