California Overturns Prop 8

Update to the story and I especially like this, which for the record I've been focusing on for a rather long time now -

Walker said the measure violates both the due process and equal protection clauses of the U.S. Constitution.

Read the full "updated" story --- here ---

Now they're getting down to basics. When you strip all of the politics away, the basics will most often prevail!

Go CA!

I disagree with the ruling because California has a system in place to provide equal benefits to couples of either gender combinations. Striking down prop 8 doesn't change the privledges received by either combination. These court cases amount to an ideological temper tantrum by homosexual community and are a waste of the court's time.

Bullshit Boaner and you know it -

14th Amendment

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Overturn Prop 8 and gay couples receive no more privledges than they do now. They are now currently equally protected.

Really?  So there's no such thing like immunity from testifying against your spouse?  

boan's black/white absolutism shows here and he knows it. Hes biased and will be for the rest of his life. That's what "Christian" thought does to one.....

From the CA Code:

297.5.  (a) Registered domestic partners shall have the same rights,
protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same
responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they
derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules,
government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources
of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses.

Don't see Christian as playing a part in it. While I don't agree with a person being homosexual, I support their right to do it. You know full well my stance on the overall issue of marriage is that government get out of it altogether. You mistake my analysis of this ruling as being incorrect for some kind of change in my stance on the issue. My point is just that to rule that it violates equal protection clause when CA law SPECIFICALLY but both type couples on an even playing field is incorrect. The only thing that will change if Prop 8 is overturned is gay couple be get a license issued to them instead of registering on the Domestic Partner Registry. That's it. No more rights, No more privledges.

Except for marriage

They can marry. Nothing stops them. It's not illegal to marry. As I have said before the ONLY difference is the piece of paper from the government.

So you agree then that the Government has a right to dictate marriage then?

No I do not. I believe that government should get out of marriage altogether. You know that.

Overturning Prop 8 doesn't prevent government from dictating marriage though so what is your point?

You're the one with the hardon about supporting Prop 8 and it being perfectly within the right of Government to Dictate Marriage.  Overturning Prop 8 is a step in the right direction since Prop 8 dictates who can marry who.

I could care less whether Prop 8 exists or not. My point is that it makes no difference to a citizens rights or privledges if it exists or it doesn't exist. It's a propaganda piece (by both sides of the argument). When it's all said and done no one will be better off than before and CA will still be dictating who may or may not marry and who will receive benefits based on their definition. This is because neither side is interested in real freedom or justice, only their very narrow ideological argument.

Circular debate, boan. There are many benefits married couples enjoy as opposed to gay marriage couples. I firmly believe that you do NOT support their right to marry and hide behind your stance in an evasive move to justify your opinion here. You pick and choose what you support, which is your right. But, I reserve my right to notice what biases you utilize in doing so.

And, that's the bottom line. You're not consistent. Your christian bias shows here and that much is clear.

If the two couples (one same sex and opposite sex) live in California, they both enjoy the same privledges and benefits. EXCEPT federal benefits. Overturning Prop 8 will not change that.

Whatever, boan. We've been through this ad nauseum.